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Rath said:
Reasonable said:
 


I know.  But big names like Asimov, etc. saw it this way and I do think that it's the right (if rarely used) definition.  I tend to dislike genres in general, but if we're gonna have them I want nice clean lines where possible.

For me, if the film isn't directly examining us in a technology or real science manner with regard to ourselves or society then it's not SF.  It's borrowing trappings from SF, it's using SF as a nice setting or selling point, but it's not SF.

Rather oddly (for me) it's one rare place I do find myself taking the elitist stance that only around 10% of what's called SF really is SF.


So would you then consider Dune a science fiction novell?

Absolutely.  It deals with the potential evolution of humans and our relationship with technology, particularly in how it pictures a society split between high dependance on technology while avoiding certain elements of technology.

I wouldn't say I agreed with all of Herbert's thoughts, but for sure the combination of ecology, science, politics, religion and human evolution makes for a heady SF brew of possibilities.

It's interesting how Quantum elements of how Paul's abilities are and the notion of a human being able to more directly sense the world in terms of probabilities and myraid eventualities depending based on current parameters.



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