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I don't particularly mind muslims in general as people, I was good friends with one and had a lot of good times with him in high school. HOWEVER, I do have problems with all these muslims claiming "oh, it is a religion of peace, you are just ignorant!" which is complete bull****. If I am not mistaken, Islam means "submission to god" or something like that...oh and the whole part of the Qur'an(sp.?) that pretty much says "If you can't convert them, do whatever it takes to kill them" and then they get all offensive when you call them out on it. I honestly thought it was just propoganda at first, but it is there. Obviously since changing any religions holy book is pretty much impossible for culturual / traditional reasons, they can't simply remove it from the book, I can see that. However, I would wish they would stop covering it up like it's not there.

There are many people of varying religions who do crazy stuff these days, but it just so happens that when muslims do these things, pretty much every time they are doing it in the name of the qur'an, and they are doing what the qur'an specifically tells them to. That is what pisses people off, that is why people are so "intolerent" and that is why it's going to be extremely difficult to get rid of that image.

I can't comment if other religions have these types of things within their books, I don't particularly enjoy reading them, however I did some research on the Qur'an and here are some excerpts I found. I'm not sure of the structure or how you reference these.

"But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful." This one came from 9:5 Yusufall, not sure what that means.

edit: here is another one.

"Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Messenger have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection." 9:29

both can be found here:, it's USC's website so it's pretty credible.

There could easily be such passages from other books, I honestly have no idea, but since muslims are so vocal, it's much easier for things like this to hit the mass media. No amount of spinning, hidden meanings, interpretations or anything, can get them out of this. It's there in every single book and people will react strongly to it.

It's sad to see a big group of people be hated on, but honestly I don't think they should be surprised. There's people in every group who give them a bad name for the rest of the world.