Culture and Islam; coinciding with current events

[hasanwhy]

TheRealMafoo said:

hasanwhy said:

TheRealMafoo said:

hasanwhy said:

With so many cultures throughout our beautiful world, its almost certain that there will be differences in ideologies and schools of thought. What one act may seem to one group may be seen differently to another and vice-versa. This isn't wrong.

Yes it is.

There are places in the world, where forced sex with 12 year old boys is common. It's part of there culture. That doesn't make it right. It's wrong. I like that you think the world is generally good but just different, but it's just not true.

Most of the countries in the world, are ruled by men and not law. Those countries are not a good in the world.

As for being a Muslim growing up the the US, great. I am glad you're here. The issue I have with Muslims in general, is that being Muslim does not mean the same thing to everyone.

There are many kinds of Muslims. Most are good, but some are bad. What would be great, is if we had two words to distinguish the people who follow Islam that are good (like you), and a word that means the rest of the religion.

In Christianity, we have that breakdown. When people think of religious leaders molesting boys, they don't think of Christians. They think of Catholics. When they think of cult like religions that follow the new testament, we don't think of Christians, we think of Mormons.

I know that if your in Iran, there are names for the different Muslim groups. Those names never make it to America. All we hear, is Muslim. I wish that would change, so when I talk about a group of people who need to be talked about, people don't think I mean you.

I agree with you that they're many atrocities in this world where such behavior is seen as normal. But I was referring to was differences in opinions not criminal behavior. I was trying to say that everyone is different but that doesn't necessarily mean that its a bad thing. 

Although I agree with the beginning portion of your post, I respectfully disagree with the rest. Labeling individuals to a certain group for there actions is, in my opinion, profiling. An entire group cannot be subjugated for the actions of some. Using your example, all catholic leaders are not child molesters nor can all child molesters be pinned as catholics.

Your post started with,"Yes it is." Yes to what? Yes to that differences are wrong or were you trying to use that statement to help define the underage sex example you used? 

Your post has given me the feeling that you may have a superiority complex going on. Please prove that that is wrong and you are not like that. 

The "Yes it is" means that some cultures, have aspects of them that are wrong.

Your OP made it sound like aspects of the world that are common place that we find uncomfortable, is just a matter of culture. And that it's ok for other countries to behave the way they do. Some things, like food, I can understand. Most Muslin countries have massive human rights violations, especially towards woman. That's not OK.

And in my example, I did not say all catholic priests are child molesters. I mean 95% of all child molesters that are Christian preachers, are Catholic. That statistic might not be true, that that was the point of it.

Let me ask you this...

if I have 10 religions in my county, and 10 million of each (so I have 100 million people in my country), and 100 terrorist acts happen in a year. Of those 100 terrorist acts, 100 of them come from one religious group.

That's still statistically a very small percentage of the one religion, so I would not condemn the entire religion, but are you telling me that when I take whatever action I need to take to stop these attacks, I should just forget about whatever religion had every terrorist. That that's useless information that's just a coincidence?

This is what our federal government is trying to do, and I think is wrong.

Well, it would make tremendous amounts of sense to take a realistic view of your current problem and apply a solution as you see fit. But terrorism has more depth than just the want to kill those who are different from you. Its fueled through twisted reasoning and flawed logic. 

If the government did go along and took action against individuals following a certain faith, how would the knowledge of knowing their religion help to stop terrorist attacks? Like if all those who follow that religion wore red hats, are federal authorities supposed to find and question all those with red heads? Would that help to lead them in the right direction? What if the terrorist suddenly decides to not wear a hat at all for cover? Knowing his religion or his country of origin wouldn't really help out if he is incognito. And what about all those innocent people who follow that religion peacefully? Are they just supposed to be questioned constantly of their mental stability? Wouldn't that person find that quite a nuisance? 

Again, like I've stated, thats profiling. If governments were to suddenly counterattack terrorism using their religion as a tool to help find or take them down, that is as if saying the government agrees to questioning of all those who are followers of that particular religion and must be solicited or interrogated. That wouldn't sit well with the international community, so its not a good stance to take. It may make sense to do so, but there are consequences for taking such a stance.