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Dallinor said:
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Baalzamon said:

Adding up the Halo series really is silly, when Halo first came out, and there still wasn't much competition at all for Halo 2.  There was a little more competition for Halo 3, but Call of Duty was still nothing compared to what it is now, along with a couple other games like Battlefield becoming games of a lot higher quality.  There is just plain too much competition to look at sales of previous Halo games and determine what the current one will do because of that.


No because all of this "competition" you speak of are all wartype shooters. How many sci-fi shooters out there? Halo has its own market with some crossover players and it has that market on lockdown. Halo:Reach will outsell Halo 3. The conversation is "should I buy Black Ops or Medal of Honor?" Not "should I buy Black Ops or Halo:Reach?"

Do you seriously think that the 11 million people who buy Halo aren't the same 11 million people who buy COD? I can understand the more hardcore gamers leaning towards other games like Battlefield, TF2, Medal of Honour etc, but Halo and COD are pretty much selling to the same casual group of people.

I disagree with this. I don't think the audiences are completely different, but I don't think they're nearly as similar as you suggest.

I don't know man, all of my friends are casual gamers that only play three franchises COD, Halo and FIFA. They all play them online and that's all they play. They all bought Halo 3 at release, then they all bought MW1, then MW2 and now they're all waiting for Reach and Black Op's. Despite what people may think, Halo is very similar to COD in that it offer's very simplistic gameplay, with a simple presentation and an easy to get into online system. I could definitely see the two audiences clashing.


Halo may be easy to "get into" online but the moment a casual player plays against good players he will get raped. Unlike the COD series where you can camp and rack up killstreaks to win. Halo takes skill unlike COD.

It doesn't make sense to say everyone can just enter, sit in a corner and rack up killstreaks. If that were the case, every corner would be full, and nobody would get killed.

You are playing against opponents who have just as much opportunity to kill you as you do them. Getting some of the more difficult challenges, trying to call in a nuke or playing some hardcore can all prove challenging, and require a certain level of skill.

Pretty much all FPS games take at least some sort of skill to be good but Halo takes way more skill then COD.  In Halo about 75% of the time the better player will win the battle, in COD about 70% of the time the 1st person to fire will win the battle.