Kasz216 said:
marciosmg said:
Kasz216 said:
marciosmg said:
Kasz216 said:
Final-Fan said:
Oh wow, I knew Galileo was needlessly antagonistic but I didn't know it was that bad
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Well, i think most people think he did it on accident. Afterall he and the pope were good friends.
However, after being called an idiot, and considering plenty thought he was a weak indecisicive pope. Like any king in that situation he feared assassanation. At that point it developed into galielo or him.
The catholic church has a hidden history of intrigue behind it that rivals any other nation.
Personally I buy into the theory that the pope before John Paul as assassanated.
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Really? Why? He is considered to nbe one of the nicest Pope's ever.
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It doesn't mean he has to of been involved in the plot or anything.
John Paul I died like a month after he was elected... of a heart attack. There was no Autopsy done.
He had planned some serious reforms that would of lost some people a lot of power. Even the papacy itself he tried to bring "down" to the common person more. He wanted to give extra powers to poorerer churches in Latin America. Was "more accepting" of abortion and cotnraceptives... basically every complaint someone currently has about the Catholic Church.... John Paul would of been a more acceptable pope to those people, and less so to traditionalists.
You think John Paul 2 was nice, by all accounts John Paul 1 was even nicer.
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Ok, can you give me some proof (articles, books, etc.) to those claims? Cause I have never heard them. Specially about the abortion and contraceptives one.
And I dont get this "bring down to common person more". What does that mean? Cause there are a lot of people in latin American who are still into this Liberation Theology who believe the Church should be more "democratic" and I perosnally found it stupid. But I dont want to go off-topic. I want to know what you meant by that.
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As in making the Pope seeming "less majsetic". As for the sources, mostly books I read a while ago who's names i don't really remember.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=IZwcAAAAIBAJ&sjid=g2cEAAAAIBAJ&pg=7022,6541738&dq=see god father mother pope-john-paul&hl=en
lists some of it.
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I have read the article and skimmed through the others around it and I see nothing of what you talk about.
Much of the "liturgy" of the job, is chosen by each Pope. Some are more serious and prefer a more ceremonial approach. Other, more loose and like to make it less strict.
As for wanting more local autonomy, the article even mentions how he still thinks that the faith is one and should be centralized. So, he probably meant autonomy for administrative decisions.
If you think he was talking about more than that, sorry I still dont see it.
As a catholic, I do admit that there were times in the Church's history where Popes might have been killed, but with John Paul, I just dont see it.
PS - Its nice his quote against Liberation theology (LT is incredibly marxist oriented).
