Ahmadinejad is anti-semitic (you'll not guess who said it)

[Kasz216]

Badassbab said:

Kasz216 said:

Badassbab said:

Kasz216 said:

Badassbab said:

dtewi said:

Badassbab said:

I'm agnostic and have zero time for religion of all kinds. I hope one day mankind casts religion to the ash heaps of history. I know the three major monotheistic religions worship the same Abrahamic God, it's quite evident in my post. I can list a whole load of pathetic fairytail rubbish on any religion take your pick.

Because the cold hard truth is always better than having hope and faith.

Yeah right.

Having the truth with hope and prospects is better than faith. What a load of bollocks faith is. Statiscally speaking faith is irrelevant and harmful to the advancement of human civilisation.

Hah, i'd like to see the "statistics" on that one.  

How many prayers go unanswered every day? One only has to have it aswered once and so 'prayers are answered'.

Look at Lourdes. 200 million visitors since  1860 and the RCC has recognised a paltry 67 miracles. Statistically meaningless.

God is supposed to be all 'powerful' and 'merciful' well look at our world, does it look like it's being 'managed' by such a God? It can only be one or the other.

Yeah... I don't think you understand what statistics are.

you said you had statistics that proved it was irrelevent and harmful to the advancement of human civilization.  

You haven't proven the first, nor even attempted at proving the second... proving you are full of it.

 

Actually, if you look at the history of science... you'd know that if it wasn't for religion... we'd actually be worse of technologically.

Science and Theology have had there minor tiffs in the past but by and large religion was more or less the biggest supporter and facilitator of Science in the world.  Most nation's weren't as they were now, nations being more live a conglomeration of rival lords that may or may not of helped out each other.

Only Churches really had the resources and will to focus on sceintific research.  There was a time where nearly every sceintist was in fact affiliated with the Catholic Church.

 

1. I fully understand what statistics are. Don't be so patronising. I guess your a member of the some kind of God squad.

2. Err...Lourdes for one. 2 million Muslims visit the Hajj every year and each time they visit just before they see the Kabbah they pray for one wish before laying their eyes upon it. Unfortunately the Saudi authorities haven't released any data on the success to failure ratio of each prayer.

3. Unlike the statistic question you never asked me to prove how religion has been harmful to civilisation so why the complaint. Doesn't prove I'm full of it at all.

I'm fully aware of the destructive role religion has played in holding back and persecuting men and women of science for centuries and so should you unless you've been reading the Roman Catholic version of history.

Science and religion have only had 'minor' tiffs? Hah!

1.  You didn't actually use any statistics though.  There were no anaysis of reliablility etc.

2. Yeah, you haven't actually used any statistical processes in any manner. 

3.  You said.

Statiscally speaking faith is irrelevant and harmful to the advancement of human civilisation.

As in you said that statistically speaking, it was both irrelevent and harmful. 

And as has already been mentioned, it sceince wouldn't of even been where it was unless it was for said chruch.

Without religon, we'd be lucky if we had WW2 level technology right now.  That's just... basic knowledge of history and of how science was funded and things in general.  Heck even the most famous examples of the church trying to stop scientists had less to do with the church and more to do with the political dealings as can be seen by the many church supports Galileo had.

Galileo's trial had less to do with heliocentracism and more to do that he inadvertidly made fun of the pople and basically called him an idiot.  The pope asked him to put the Pope's thoughts on the matter in the book.  Which Galileo agreed to.  He named said character a name that means Simpleton in Italian.

He wasn't arrested because of his viewpoint.  He was arrested because he called the pope a Simpleton

The pope... up until then actually being one of Galileo's biggest supporters.