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Kasz216 said:
Badassbab said:
Kasz216 said:
Badassbab said:
dtewi said:
Badassbab said:

I'm agnostic and have zero time for religion of all kinds. I hope one day mankind casts religion to the ash heaps of history. I know the three major monotheistic religions worship the same Abrahamic God, it's quite evident in my post. I can list a whole load of pathetic fairytail rubbish on any religion take your pick.


Because the cold hard truth is always better than having hope and faith.

Yeah right.

Having the truth with hope and prospects is better than faith. What a load of bollocks faith is. Statiscally speaking faith is irrelevant and harmful to the advancement of human civilisation.

Hah, i'd like to see the "statistics" on that one.  

How many prayers go unanswered every day? One only has to have it aswered once and so 'prayers are answered'.

Look at Lourdes. 200 million visitors since  1860 and the RCC has recognised a paltry 67 miracles. Statistically meaningless.

God is supposed to be all 'powerful' and 'merciful' well look at our world, does it look like it's being 'managed' by such a God? It can only be one or the other.

Yeah... I don't think you understand what statistics are.

you said you had statistics that proved it was irrelevent and harmful to the advancement of human civilization.  

You haven't proven the first, nor even attempted at proving the second... proving you are full of it.

 

Actually, if you look at the history of science... you'd know that if it wasn't for religion... we'd actually be worse of technologically.

Science and Theology have had there minor tiffs in the past but by and large religion was more or less the biggest supporter and facilitator of Science in the world.  Most nation's weren't as they were now, nations being more live a conglomeration of rival lords that may or may not of helped out each other.

Only Churches really had the resources and will to focus on sceintific research.  There was a time where nearly every sceintist was in fact affiliated with the Catholic Church.

 


Thanks you for that. I've had conversations like this many times in the past and its like people seem to not know History. People forget how Universities appeared because of the Church and how it single-handedly protected discoveries (specially during the invasion of Europe by the barbarian tribes).

I like your style a lot, Kaz. You are the most objective person I have ever met (well, "read" ). I know you have your problems with the Catholic Church, but it doesnt keep you from seeing the other side as well. And not just in this issue. You are one of the very few who had actually go in to debate instead of just attacking others.

If only the internet had more people like you. Kudos to you, sir!



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