NKAJ said:
Kasz216 said:
Chrizum said:
Kasz216 said:
steverhcp02 said:
Sounds like these SPECIFIC people are doing something stupid in the name of their religion. Just like those SPECIFIC people on 9/11 did something (obviously more) stupid in the name of their religon.
Bottomline, lots of people are fucking dumb regardless of religion.
The thing that ive taken away from this, people like Mafoo who obviously have an agenda have compromised parts of their logic and humanity for politically watered down reasons which has resulted in an argument youd see on a preschool playground.
As someone else pointed out, is it illegal to be a jerk? No, but why not error on the side of being kind? Is climate change "real" Who the fuck knows, but why not error on the side of safety? Sure it may be legal, but why not be a bigger person and not argue in favor of giving people ammunition (even if its not justified) when they know its only going to cause problems? The fact that they are essentially going against a hallmark and pillar of Christ's turn the other cheek teaching makes it more laughable.....but whats really disturbing is the results in this thread going great distances to try to explain why this SHOULD happen.
We can get into link wars pointing out crazies from each others "sides" but honestly? Why cant some of you just be above it. Just because somethings within mans law doesnt mean it should be done, I'd hope everyone regardless of religious preference or political party can draw the correlation that doing things out of spite knowing they are meant to incite is just wrong.
As others have said, if its within the law we only have ethos to argue over. But the chirch and these people get nothing productive out of doing this. It fosters hatred, is an unhealthy way of coping and accomplishes nothing. It really shouldnt even be debatable since there is really no underlying benefit to this as there is with the Mosque at all other than hatred.
Just be nice to people and dont do mean things even if youre allowed. How about that?
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And... you totally missed Mafoo's point. Which was just that. Everyone has the right to be a jerk but shouldn't. He was just pointing out another case of it for people who were defending someones right to be a jerk.
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I think you missed Mafoo's point. Which was that it was clever to burn the quran because it 'promotes freedom of religion'.
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Not that it was "Clever" and promotes freedom of religion.
Clever because it pisses off the people who were using the same reasoning and rules to piss off other people.
As in... showing them the double edged sword of being insensitive. Basically turning the issue on it's head and making everyone look like a hypocrit who doesn't take a libretarian view on both issues.
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You almost blew my mind with that post .Almost.
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It's a popular tactic... espiecally in child raising.
Not one i'm particularly fond of... but it can be effective.
It's like on a TV show when somebody draws a line down the center of a room and forbids the other person to cross it, only to realize that when the same standard is upheld to them, they can't make it to the bathroom.
Or when someone like constantly asks to borrow stuff, then the other person decides to start doing the same and it annoys them etc.
Real big sitcom tactic.
