mirgro said:
Kasz216 said:
mirgro said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
The future is going to be in people who were never politicians.
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I hope so. But, I mean, wasn't barack not a politician?
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Pretty much, and it worked perfectly for him.
He spent a few years in legislature, made extra sure to stay faaaar away from any controversial vote.
Then parlayed that into becoming president.
Then he inacted a lot of unpopular legislation... I mean, hey it can only get you so far.
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I prefer people who rule a country and decide what's best for it not to be politicians. Why? Because for someone to be a politician they had to actively desire and want that power. I highly, HIGHLY doubt even 5% of the people in washington actually give a shit about the population, they jsut care about their own personal selves. If they cared about the general safety, lobbyism would have been outlawed decades ago.
The best people who are in power are the ones who don't give a damn whether they were in power or not, they won't have their judgements clouded by money and power in any way and maybe that will help them pass better legislation that is actually in the interest of people.
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It's not like you can outlaw all Lobbyism... that would basically make it impossible for anyone to give an oppinion.
I do agree though that most politicans don't care about people and care more about just having power.
However, I think that's always going to be the case. Even WITH outsiders winning elections. It's just going to be outsiders who want power mostly for powers sake. After like 5-10 years, everyone who wants to be a poltician would just get jobs in fields that seem to produce the most elected officials.
We aren't a small city like rome so it's not like we can just pick names out of hats to be politicians and just give them a year to study before they take on the job.
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I meant lobbyism where corporations and business entities can give money to politicians' campaigns. As far as I can see, the way lobbyism is handeled right now, I can't see how it's different than outright bribes.
Also that was the point I was trying to make, you need people who are indifferent, the people who don't go out and vote, the ones who just don't give a shit. They'd be the best ones for the job, of course they don't give a shit so they just don't bother trying.
Edit: Basically you should give the power to the people who don't want it, sort of a catch 22.
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Well that is what often happened in rome. Hence the intersting way their system worked.
as for campaigns. I tend to agree. I think it'd be better if they just did nothing but held 3 debates and made those days and the voting day a holiday.
However,activly passing laws to prevent ads like that Swiftboat stuff... would probably be a violation of free speach, being a problem. Though granted we already have annoying free speach violations in television.
