will/is the 360 a success?

[Spectrumglr]

dschumm said:

Spectrumglr said:

dschumm said:

Spectrumglr said:

CrazzyMan said:
NO, x360 is a FAILURE.
It FAILED to sell twice more, then in it`s FIRST year.
It FAILED on it`s BEST year.

best years come when price hits mass marke level...ie 199$/199€: this was true for PS2 and xbox...i don't see why this shouldn't happen in the current generation.

This is one of the most laughable statistics people draw out. Most consoles launch at $250 and have their first price drops in 1 year. They usually have 80% of their lifetime at a mass market price. I have serious doubts that MS will even have the baseline arcade at $199 for the 4th Christmas. The premium might hit $199 for Christmas 5,probably the same time the 720 gets launched. No this will be the greatest problem with the 360.

don't know where you come from...but the reality here on earth is that 300€+ for parents that want to make a present to their children is simply too much...and is probably too much even if you earn your money and you're not a nerd that has no social life: for the vast majority of people a console it's just home entertainment like throwing a DVD in the DVD-Player and watching a movie and 300€ for a couple of hour a week is (again) simply too much.

You are making my point for me. The price of the 360 is too high, and pricedrops have been too slow and too small. Mass market price is good but only if there is a lot of life left in the system. I think prices should have been $249/$299/$349 this christmas with another pricedrop of $50 for GTA4. That would have killed Sony in the US, given the Wii a run for its money, and actually pushed the kind of marketshare Microsoft is looking for.

Also as parents get more educated on the subject, a paid online service is hurting the precieved cost ofthe system, even if it 's features are far superior. They need to bundle a free 6 months of gold with every system.

For the record I so earn my own money, I am a parent, and price is one of the big reasons I own a Wii and not a 360 or PS3.

so apparently we come form the same planet ;) (i don not have children for the moment but i earn my money and i find x360 and ps3 too expensive: toys for rich people!) ...i bolded one senctence from your post: that's a good point but honestly i don't think that X360 hasn't enough life left. Actually i think that this sytem in MS mind is gonna last as long as PS3...and it will have at least 3 years of sales after hitting mass market price like ps2 did in the past generation): i don't think they want to repeat the mistakes they made with the first xbox and stop supporting the product once it has a chance to become profitable