Smidlee said:
FaRmLaNd said:
GameOver22 said:
If God is unnecessary, God would be eliminated by Ockham's razor. There would be no reason to posture God if the universe was completely explained in scientific terms. For this reasons, theists would not accept the idea of an unnecessary God.
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Well thats been the case for a long time and doesn't really require science to point that out. Its as simple as this. Many theists say something can't come from nothing. But where did God come from? He always existed or created himself or whatever way you want to spin it. Thats a double standard. If God can come from nothing or always existed, why not just skip a step and apply that to the universe. Why does God get some kind of special status? If something can come from nothing, then surely other things can. Such as the Universe? Why regress to God?
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It's the first law of thermodynamics that states something can't come from nothing. If something did come from nothing then it's greater than the law of thermodynamics(as well as human understanding).
We have strong reason to believe the universe contains intelligence and creators. ;)
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Something cannot come from nothing actually comes from the ancient Greek philosophers. Its a metaphysical claim about the structure of reality, and the meaning of the sentence has more to do with language than actual observation. The laws of thermodynamics essentially say the same thing in more technical fashion. They just deal exclusively with closed systems.
