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Rainbird said:
patapon said:
Rainbird said:
Severance said:
darthdevidem01 said:

Classics like The Legend Of Dragoon

You disappoint me.

Gran Turismo

Siren

Shadow of the Colossus

ICO

Ape Escape

Siren

Locoroco

Patapon

Echocrome

Trash Panic

WKC (With LVL5)

Demon's Souls (With From Software)

and a bunch of other classics.

PS3:

2 retail releases, one is a demo and the other a big PSN game.

3 PSN releases, one of which are also available at retail.

WKC and DS are not SCEJ games, SCEJ did not develop those games, they only helped. WKC is very much a Level-5 game and Demon's Souls is very much a From Software game.

DS IS! a SCEJ game. End of story. So what if a 3rd party co-developed? Does that mean Metroid: Other M isn't a nintendo game? No...

that doesn't change that Sony didn't make it... we're talking about what they have created this generation...

Rainbird disagrees with you. Look, here's what he said, "SCEJ did not develop those games, they only helped"

Although we can both agree he contradicted himself with SCEJ didn't make the game... yet they did... it is clear that he understood SCEJ had a massive role in making Demon's Souls. SCEJ had a hand or 10 in DS and if you disagree, take it up with yourself.