I'm Coming Out...

[richardhutnik]

sapphi_snake said:

richardhutnik said:

So then, you argue that any findings in the area of neurotheology merely support there is a God.  Buddhists are non-theists, and it was shown the repeated meditations by them had a positive effect.  Even the end of last video I posted in this thread gives people a question to ask yourself, and to meditate on that.  If it can't, then it either does serve exclusively as an argument for God, or it won't of value for you, because you refuse to for personal reasons.  Anyhow, this hard stance is where you likely need to be in you life at this point.

Nope, on the contrary if anything those findings show the opposite, especially 'cause those positive effects apply to people of all religions, esentially saying that they have nothing to do with the religions themselves, but rather a specific mindset. The problem I have with this is that the "scientists" that work in that field belive that there's actually a reality other than the material one (a reality inside the brain or something of the sort). Plus, I'm not religious, I don't meditate or whatever those religous people do, so neurotheology doesn't really help me now does it?

If this is how the mind works, then this is how the mind works.  The human mind does filter selectively based on how it is conditioned, and what your mind says is going on is what you experience and feel is real, thus the need to speak of a different "reality" (chunks of life is subjective).  And, for this and other reasons, I said that neurotheology would be of value to atheists.  Well, you then reply that is not true, because it isn't of value to YOU personally. 

The idea of meditation helping or not either is true or isn't.  Just because you don't want to do it doesn't meant it couldn't help you if you did it.