TheRealMafoo said:
johnsobas said:
TheRealMafoo said:
johnsobas said:
TheRealMafoo said:
| Rath said:
If I don't hate Islam then I must be ok with my country having Sharia law? Completely doesn't follow. A lot of moderate Muslims don't even want Sharia law.
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But what about the ones that do? At what point, do you stop defending a religion, and start defending freedom?
What will it take for you to look at a particular Muslim and say "Your not allowed to do that in the name of your religion".
I realize bombing something counts, but is anything short of that OK?
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well obviously breaking the law is the point at which it is not OK, whenever that takes place. Defending freedom is exactly what people are doing here, it's ironic that you want to protect our freedom by taking it away.
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I want to take away your freedom to destroy liberty. That's what We did to the British when we founded this country.
How about we change the players...
Let's say I started a religious sect, and called it "The Christian Nazi Church of God". My church believed that for the US to be under True law, that only Christians could hold office, and no Muslim or Jew should be allowed to step foot into Washington DC. This is this the way, though my Christian god, I wished my country to become.
I found the highest concentration of Jews in the US (somewhere in New York), and I started building my 15 story church, finished with a 100 foot Swastika and Cross on the top.
Would you think everyone who is against this church, is anti-Christian? Would you think not helping there vision of a perfect world be suppression of freedom?
Would you fight for there religious equality?
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As long as they don't break the law or infringe on others rights there is really nothing wrong with it. I'm sure you can find plenty of cults that say anti-american things, anti-whatever you want to make of it (which islam is not). They can only do damage if you let them, they can only take over your law and courts if you let them. If they are that good that they can convince enough Americans to join their cult, put democratically elected politicians in power, and make amendments to the constitution then the problem is not the cult itself, it is the American people. Like i said if they are within the laws of the land, and don't infringe on others rights then there shouldn't be a problem.
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Fair enough. This is actually a good answer. I guess I am just pissed off that what I put in bold, has already been done, but not in the name of religion. In the name of socialism.
I tire of watching our country be destroyed by extremism, that I am willing to stop a different kind of extremism at a much earlier phase of growth then I guess I should.
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don't really agree with the specifics there, but i will say that people that do things in the name of the good of the country/constitution/freedom/christianity are far more dangerous than anything else right now. There are a lot of 2 faced politicians out there that use these as their reasons to work their own agenda.
