theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
theprof00 said:
Kasz216 said:
I'm guessing said protest has far less support.
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... There are protests and rallies and the Tea Party is there. They've also defaced the other mosque that is there, etc etc.
It doesn't matter if there is less support. They are protesting an American right, while at the same time, the tea party espouses constitutional integrity.
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My point is. You are trying to discredit and actual protest that has a point, by bringing up one who doesn't.
It would be the equivlent of say, people protesting that veal farms are cruel because they lock in a calf to where it can never move for it's entire life....
and saying "Yeah, well PETA also says nobody should have pets and that animals should be protected under the exact same laws humans are".
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I'm not discrediting the protest of the moque, I'm discrediting the OPs idea that the NYC mosque is an isolated situation lending media coverage to an otherwise benign movement.
The NYC mosque is not the epicenter of anti-islamic sentiment. It is happening all over the US. Just recently, a church in Florida wanted to host what they called "international burn-a-quran day".
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You don't think this stuff happens all the time? Including before 9/11?
"international burn-a-quran day"? That's your number 3?
You don't think that doesn't happen to Christians and/or Jewisih people either? Seems pretty tame compaired to something Richard Dawkins might do just to piss off all 3 of the religions.
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Oh, I didn't know we were arguing that they should grow thicker skin.
I thought we were arguing over an american civil liberty granted by the constitution.
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No. And that is mistake you are making. You are jumping to huge conclusions that this violates civil rights.
They have a right to build a mosque there. People also have the right to express their 1st ammendment right and protest the shit out of building a mosque in an insensitive place.
Or anywhere for that matter, but you know. The NYC case actually has a point, logic and good reasoning.
Building the mosque where they want to is like the equilvent to saying something racist on the radio.
You have every right to say something racist on the radio, but it's going to needlessly hurt peoples feelings.
As such you are going to have to deal with the reaction of otheres expressing their first amendment rights.
They have the right to build there... and i've literally seen nobody say they don't. The point is... it's a VERY insensitive and douchebag move to build there... and people are pissed.
Would you defend a plan to build a bunch of churches right next to the ruins of bombed out aborition clinics? Me, i'd be complain like all hell about that.
Actual Civil right issues don't come into play unless it's being blocked legally and for religious reasons.
