How many PS3 games will break the 10 million sold barrier?

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Michael-5 said:

50 Euros is still a lot of money, and I don't see too many peoples being moved by the MOVE. I don't think a console MOVE bundle will push more then an ordinary game bundle because the MOVE really doesn't look that much more exciting.

People may not buy  for move but they will buy for the bigger HDD and many have been buying the bigger one as its so low priced

Kinect is getting more pre-orders weekly then the MOVE is getting in total, and Kinect is still 2 months to launch.

we don't know what shit is happening out of America which is SONY's biggest place and where MOVE is way cheaper than here

I just don't see the move selling, maybe MOVE will sell 10 million units on it's own at best, but the number of which that are bundled with Sports Champions should fall way short.

who is even talking abt 10m,if if anybody did don't quote me and explain

Beleive what you want, I just find it shocking to put Sports Champions on the list, even Kinect Adventures will have trouble passing 10 million units.

the way you say "even kinect adventures will have trouble passing 10 million units" makes it sound like it is more likely to sell which is bullshit as its no cheap thing either and the games are full of shit even for a family

PS3 motion gaming will NEVER be anywhere nearly as good as the Wii. Kinect too, Wii is amazing, just play it someday, PS3 MOVE will just never have the game library as the Wii, nor the innovation of Nintendo. It's easy to exactly copy ideas.

lmao

you say MOVE will never be as good and then add Kinect.you just failed completely there

i have played wii and its fun for sometime but i just can't play games like those when i have ohter big games

and saying its easy to copy idea,kinect did just that

My sisters boyfriend bought a Pontiac Sunfire for $100 and it lasted an entire year. I'm not completly sure how old the car was, but it was under ten years old. :P This comment was only intended to be a joke, but it's not hard to find a car for under $400, $700 is ideal, but still a PS3 MOVE bundle or a car....hmmm.... Prices canadian too btw, so the car was actually $90 US.

even if i was getting a car that cheap,just wouldn't buy it.

This was a joke man, relax

 well you should convey more properly as your comment was just plain and straight forward

 

See there is the fault in your logic, the standalone device does not even have all the features of a Wii or a 360, and does not offer anything more except Blu-Ray. I can't watch videos off my computer from my x-box (I have to manually transfer files using a USB on a PS3), Sports Champions and any Wii - knockoff titles will never ever be as good as Nintendo titles, I can't have two profiles on the same console at the same time (so I can't play against friends locally), I can go on...

you really need to correct your own logic

blu-ray a very good feature

and you can watch video on your PS3 from your PC

and how the hell can't sports champions be better than nintendo title,i'm not saying it will but there are alot of genres that nintendo isn't that good

you can go on and you know the same can i

stupid reasons always

Your just very one minded, do you really think the PS3 is in any way better then the 360 gaming-wise? Do you seriously love your PS3 soo much for ignore all forms of competition? I mean ..... I'm just done with you. If your not going to be logical, why bother. Go beleive your PS3 MOVE bundle is better then a Wii and a 360, I'll just watch PS3 sales not even budge over Move, and see Sports Champions get a 7/10 rating.

you need to be logical yourself first

silly reasons that you put out are full of shit and if you were done then why write this shit load of post 

and you go believe that 360 trumps PS3 and nothing can be better than wii

your latter comment again proved what you are on,i never spoke about PS3 sales of Move sales being big or causing any disturbance.

you only think people are in this for the wars and you support and hope the kinect will do wonders.keep doing your thing then

Seriously wow.......

yeah you really need to go check into med care

How many? Is this your opinion or can you back it up? I know when Microsoft used to have a $400 Elite, a $300 Pro and a $200 Arcade, 80% or consoles sold were Pro Models, and only 10% were Elite/Arcade models each.

cause the difference was more,here the difference is just 50 euros not 100

Nope I looked it up, $50 for Move Controller, $90 for Move with PS Eye, $100 for PS Eye, Move Controller, and Sports Champions. $130 for a Move controller, Sports Champions, PS EYE, and a Navigation controller.

It's just that the only bundle is the Sport Champions and console bundle, however I was not wrong about my prices, I do my research.

Standalone, the Move controller is $50, Eye is $40, Sports Champions is $30, and Navigation Controller is $30.

Also stop being insulting, your making very biased illogical arguements, and I make one price mess up of $10, seriously...

and what else were we discussing.you are just adding standalone prices and posting them as one

we have already posted standalone move as individually

whatn even the worth of posting the shit you are doing again and again

bundle is a different thing where you get a discount

and how the hell id it bias when i post individual prices and bundle prices

 

your posts are so foolish

 

Whats not proven? Pre-orders it's already twice as big as Move and it's not comming out for 2 more months. At least it's not a complete Wii immitation.

yeah and just in america,shows how limited you think

and VGC doesn't track move either

just showed your bias again.you say move imitated wii when kinect did the same with eyetoy

your posts just proved what you are

But that still hasn't changed and never will. If Sony makes a price cut, so will Microsoft.

if you know that then why were you comparing ELITE with PS3 120gb

showed your bias again

How?

Wrong facts? Dude I made a $10 price mistake, big deal!

yeah the same mistake happening again and again,thats perfectly normal for a person like you i guess

comparing costlier sku with the cheapest sku of the other console

saying one thing copied other and saying the other thing didn't

saying one pricy accessory far outdoes the other lower priced one and on and on and on

Now your just being a baby, you know I'm right, most people in this forum agree with me, I'm even getting messages saying I'm great at debating, but your still going on. Why is everything a competition with you? Why can't you accept loss sometimes?

you getting msg of great debating,thats your defense to your bias.......................lmao 

and what loss are you talking about,this isn't about win or loss.it maybe for a bias person like you

If you really beleive Sports Champions will sell over 10 million go ahead! I'm not stopping you.

you really need to get yourself checked

i never said sports champions would sell 10m

You can beleive the same about Gran Turismo. I'm just giving very logical reasoning onto why it won't sell 10 million. My initial comment wasn't even towards you, and you bud in man. Other people even say "why are you turning this into a gran turismo versus halo thread?"

i didn't even comment at any halo comment or any different topic comment of your in this thread

how the hell did halo relate to this thread

Seriously..

yeah seriously you need to stop

When PS3 launched at the 360 was $400 (for 20 gigs), PS3 sales were not that great,

what else did i say????????

and more people are buying 360's now,

yeah from what,last 2 months

and still being cheaper than PS3

and have been since the launch of the PS3. Thats why the sales difference is still 5.3 million and growing (and only dropped because of a PS3 Slim).

again showed your bias

the sales increase was majorly because of the price

and i never said PS3 sold more than 360 or there was no gap so you shwoing those stats is useless

No doubt the PS3's Playstation/Sony brand name helps sales. Were not talking about SEGA here, I have a PS1-3, and borrow a PSP, if they weren't great consoles, why would I buy one?

when did i ask what you bought it for or didn't buy it?

you are making up your own statements and questions and answering them again and again quoting me

Still the 360 is selling more, and even if the PS3 came with a convertible sports car, and a sexy girl, if it costs a million dollars it won't sell that well.. (This is a joke too).

bad joke and why is the need of it?

its like you are in a circus and trying to make people laugh but not suceeding and unneccesarily keep posting one

$400 is a lot of money, and PS3 only sells about 11 million a year.

it sure is alot of money and sure is what you spend on other consoles.

and PS3 sold 13m last year.

again wrong figures

this is whats called a bias if you don't know by now

Even if 20% of new PS3 owners buy that package, thats only 2 million a year, and with about 3 years left on the market (assuming MOVE continuously sells 20% of PS3's, PS3 sales remain constant and Sports Champions is still bundled with the Move/PS3), it's still going to be short by at least 2 million (including $100 bundle buyers). This still is an optimistic estimate, as I beleive the Kinect will have a 20% attach rate, and Move 10%.

the price is much lower in other parts of the world so taking NA price tag and comparing it to WW figures and even stating lower WW figures

man that this totally wrong

your whole post shows how you are trying to undermine the PS3 and MOVE.

and Move doesn't have to push PS3 alone,people were as it is buying the bigger HDD version and now MOVE comes with it and it will also sell standalone

Didn't say bundle, and it's $130, sorry I'M OFF BY $10!!! SHOOT ME!

whats the need of putting all out when we have already first Put out the individual prices

Wow seriously, your unbeleivable. Going nuts on me for a $10 price mistake and giving completly random numbers for games.

it wasn't random number of games,its what the titles are releasing this fall

and the mistake doesn't happen so many times

VG Chartz tracks pre-orders for games, and if you ever read one of those pre-order analysis's, you will see that Kinect is a lot more popular then the Move.

oh yeah right i didn't know that....................meh

and you really need to read the pre-orders yourself.they only track america.

not considering WW numbers which we don't have and just saying that Kinect is doing better than MOVE basing on america numbers were PS3 is weak is foolish again

 

consolealso what Bias? I HAVE BOTH A PS3 and a 360! What s do you have? Seriously? I also get a Wii from a friend from time to time, own a DS, and also borrow a PSP now and then, so I have access to them all.

so you have ps3 and 360 and and everything else and we don't know for real and even if you do that just wopes away all the bias your comments put out,yeah right...................lol

As for titles, Kinect has 15 launch games, and 20 games releasing before the end of 2010, 15 of which are exclusive to the Kinect (EA Sports Active 2.0, Michael Jackson, Zumba Fitness, Harry Potter, and Imagine Fashion Party are mulitconsole).

Move as 21 games either MOVE compatible, or releasing before the end of 2010, 14 of which are exclusive to the Move.

biased again

move has near 40 compatible titles

it depends from what the individual consumers need is

 $300 is a far more reasonable price considering a PS3 is $300, an Elite 360 is $300, and a Wii is $200. If your going to compete against the Wii, making a knockoff product for double the price is definatly not reasonable.

hell you say it depedns on what the individual consumer wants then bullshit your own opinion

and you say Kinect XBOX $300 is reasonable when you have to go out and buy a $120 something HDD and even then only 250gb

and you say MOVE competiting with Wii which is cheaper and the same time back Kinect when PS2 and Eyetoy are much cheaper

bias bias bias

The $400 Move bundle is still awesome, but I seriously doubt the average gamer (Wii/PS2 gamer) has $400 to spend on a system that immitates a $200 Wii which has a much better library. This $400 is going to appeal to more hardcore gamers.

how does wii have much better library gain i didn't undestand.yeah its good but it gets bored after a few hours

Why do you argue with everything? Now $300 is less reasonable then $400 when for the last year no console has cost $400?

why do you bullshit so much and run your biased comments on this forum?

again just because last year no console was $400,its not reasonable.you need to go the meaning of that word

 hm..... looking at your post history, everything is an arguement where PS3 is better in every way imaginable, and that it's the worst selling console out of the big 3 for magical reasons.

really cause i never said ps3,360 or wii are better than each other.they are good in their own way

and again your biased satement,you basing your argument on sales of ps3 are last when we aren't disscussing sales here and what does them have to do with this

Do you even have anything other then a PS3? Cause I have at least one console from every make. I own 4 Nintendo consoles (not the Wii :( ), all Nintendo Handhelds except Game & Watch, all Playstation consoles, a Sega Genesis, Dreamcast, and CD, and have access to a Wii, PSP,X-Box and a Sega Gamegear. The ONLY one I can't play is the SEGA Saturn, and 20 year old Atari consoles.

so?????????????????????

You critisizing me for being bias, yet I have no plans to purchase either a Kinect or MOVE, I have Gran Turismo 5 AND Halo: Reach Pre-ordered, and essentially have all the big consoles.

Good Job.

saying is harder than doing it and owning it

Now your going to critisize my terms?

just correcting and you really do need to know the meaning of your terms above in your posts

Watch a Nintendo Press conference, the single most often used word Nintendo uses to describe themselves is Innovative.

so they said and you believed them

i never said they weren't but your way of prooving it total bullshit

When I say Kinect is innovative, I mean just that, just like Nintendo has been innovative for decades.

nintendo has

kinnect isn't,its inventive

MOVE is a Wii copy.

sure is kinect that you are bullshiting as innovation of eyetoy

If MS need to improve kinect software a lot? wow, sorry how old are you? I'm 21.

ooh so you  judge by age

biased in yet another thing

by now i am sure your life is biased

Only you argue against me, I haven't had people tell me that NO Kinect and Halo will fail misrubly, and if they did I would discuss why they think so.

neither did i say that

go to a hospital,you really need help

and many people argue with you on other topics and you write shit load of quoted replies to everybody

So far my only two big debates have been....with you... discussing that Gran Turismo will be bigger then GT 1, 2, 4 and also Halo.

i never debated halo flopping with you and don't think it will flop

and i never said GT will be as big as 1,2,4.

i just said it will reach 10m

The other being right were where I simply just said that I don't think Sports Champions will sell 10 million....

again i never did say that.you really need to go see a doctor

you are remember who said what and then allege different people of paying things that others said

and then you started calling my bias, and that I make up numbers, and that I must be wrong because my sentences are coherent and make sence, and aren't baised entirely off opinion.

i totally stand on that one your all your post bleed bias

 

 

If your going to call me biased, and insult me because I mentioned a Move price that was $10 off, critisize my choice of the word innovative, telling me that my comments are bullshit, and false because you just can't accept logic?

you need to understand your own logics first,learn the meaning of some words,making mistakes again and again and saying that one peripheral costing more has  more chance of selling than another basing of one region,and many other things

I'm just not going to reply to you, just like most other people here. I have better things to do then argue with a teenager who thinks he knows everything about the world.

but so you type the big load of shit again and again.and you are baised again on the age.and you being older as one of your defense points of your arguments.......................lmao

Just watch Move sales in a month...

we actually don't track move sales so we won't know how much they sell