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A203D said:
Teo said:

FF12's Character all had motives to do what they did in all parts of the story, which is something most FFs lack. In the first hour the setting of the game was laid flawlessly, Vaan and Penelop's circumstances were understood, and they let you play their daily lives.

 The drama starts when Vaan decides to finally do something, where he meets 2 other characters. They get stuck together because of what another character was doing secretly.

When the drama moves on from Vaan and Penelop, people think that this is justification to say the game has no character development. The point is, why must every story be about the 1 protanoist? Vaan wanted to be a sky pirate, why would he not follow Balthier around like a little dog? His life was boaring.

About this; as a FF12 fan i half heartedly agree with you. i like the way that see the game through the eyes of Vaan and Penenlo, and we're taken on a whirlwind adventure, through thier perspective.

but heres what we dont really know. the orignal director of the game Yasumi Matsuno apparently never wanted Vaan & Penelo in the game. Basch wouldve been the main character. And we wouldve have lived his emotional journey of redemption for the country he failed, and finally confront the Judge who condemned him to false imprisionment. you've finished the game, so you already know i've barley scratched the surface with that.

but anyway, apparently there were people at SE who didnt agree with having such a mature character as the centre of the game because it dosent appeal to the demographic of FF titles (cleary neither did F13 if you ask me). but anyway Matsuno eventully left production half way because he feel ill 'apparently', and the character development we shouldve had between Balthier, Fran, Ashe and Basch was substituted for Vaan and Penelo.

thats the reason the story of Ivalice dosent have much relevance for them. and imo we only got a part of the game he wouldve delivered. i think had he had finished, the emotional story behind the characters wouldve been a lot better, and the story wouldve been a lot better. but i've rambled, and my original point was that the direction of FF12 with Matsuno wouldve been so much better than FF13's direction.


The three youngsters are where things REALLY got mucked up. Ashe didn't even seem to fit right and she just annoyed or bored me after awhile. It was quite clear that Basch, Balthier, and Fran were supposed to be the true stars, but their development, characterization, and history were outright slaughtered just so some shoehorned mannequins could be the main characters. There's a superb plot in FFXII somewhere, but that's NOT what we got