CGI-Quality said:
Seece said:
CGI-Quality said:
Seece said:
All I ever see from certain people is "Move will sell better in the long run, it'll have legs (yeah heard that before) with little to nothing to back it up other than wishful thinking.
If Kinect has a huge launch that means it can't have legs? (you know like Wii) but when something enters the race relatively slow it'll have legs?
At least in terms of HW, legs are very very different to those a game has.
More than likely Kinect will have legs, based on the fact it's targetted at current 360 owners AND a new audience, an audience I might add Move will struggle immensly to sell to.
I hear a lot of about "the core are REALLY interested in Move" and "oh the core hate Kinect." TBH I'm seeing a bit of both on both sides of the fence.
Again, people think this launch line up determines the lifecycle of each device, because move has core games it appeals to the core? Yeah that's fair enough, but Kinect will have core titles too, then what?
At the end of the day, Move was done 4 years ago and a lower price, and was targetted at a big untapped audience. Kinect has the advantage of being new, being cheaper than PSMove, albeit I admit it's still to high compared to Wii, and appealing to that huge market.
Of course I could be wrong, but given the vibes Sony have given off on how the feel about Move, it doesn't sound like they have much faith in it, or is in the long plan for them, unlike Kinect and Microsoft's attitude towards it, the difference is night and day.
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I think you misinterpret some of what you hear/read. Just because some say Move will win out in the long run doesn't mean Kinect won't have legs. I personally think Kinect will sell more 360's than Move sells PS3s, but I think on their own, Move will sell better.
Now of course Kinect has advantages, like being something new and fresh, which works out sometimes (ala HEAVY RAIN), but could also take a back seat to something "traditional". Either case is possible and both sides are expressing wishful thinking. Nothing wrong with that.
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Nah I'm seeing a lot of "Move will beat Kinect because it'll have legs" to me it's indicating Kinect will be frontloaded and then tail off (I mean how can something that's frontloaded AND have legs be beaten by something that just has legs?
Like I said, Move will have to sell a high ratio to current owners vs the 360 to beat it, given Kinect is going to spur on more HW purchases thus leading to Kinect units sold.
It's clear most people's sentiments about why Move will be better is because Kinect is the way it is, not because of it's games. Fact is though, most of those people thought the same about the Wii.
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Much of that is true, but both sides are just expressing their feelings. What about all those who say Move is "doomed" because it's priced too high or confusing? Fact is, none of us know anythig for certain. That makes for wishful thinking in all discussions. Kinect could succeed off being fresh, but fail for the same reason. Move could be a success because it is based on a tried idea, but it too could fail for that same reason.
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Sorry to piggy back on your convo, just wanted to put my 2 cents in. The reason I don't see Kinect having legs, and being frontloaded, is possible bad word of mouth. I mean sure it will seem like its revolutionary to newcomers (mostly because of hype and ads for the device), but if in the end the experience doesn't blow them completely away, Kinect will have a "meh" feeling surrounding it. Something just tells me Kinect isn't going to deliver on a lot of things people think it will do for gaming. I also don't see Kinect being able to deliver the accuracy needed for "core" experiences. MS said that they will be bringing core games to Kinect maybe next year, but really, why haven't they even brought ONE for it this year?
Sony, on other hand, is trying to appeal to both crowds with the Move. I'm not sure they can win over the casuals from Nintendo, but a lot of the already existing core base seems to be excited for what the Move could bring to games like Socom, Killzone, and new IP's like Scorcery. Also, if Sony can show in their ads that the PS Eye can be capable of doing a lot of what Kinect can for controllerless casual games, they may be able to win a few over from MS. I personally haven't seen any ads on TV yet, so I'm guessing Sony is waiting til just a week or 2 before launch to really push the Move. And Sony has one more thing on its side, it has already been shown to deliver what Sony promised for the device and hands-on experiences seem to be getting better as the device matures. It did win out over Kinect for Best Hardware Accessory at Gamescom this year, after all.
In the end, though, what CGI said is right. All of this is just speculation and high hopes on anyone's part. We'll just have to wait and see what the real results are in the coming weeks. All I know is that on Sept. 19th I'll be at Wal-mart getting 2 Moves and 2 Nav's, plus a couple of games.
