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CGI-Quality said:
zgamer5 said:
CGI-Quality said:
zgamer5 said:
CGI-Quality said:
Squilliam said:
CGI-Quality said:
Squilliam said:
A. Some people seem to forget that.
B. They do need to be reminded, all of the time. Almost all of the talk about console games seems to take a psudo technical angle when talking about visuals when what really needs to be praised is artistry and talent. Answer me this, who got more praise for Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2? Was it the PS3 or was it the teams whom made the game? I'll be surprised if you say the latter. It all depends on the context, if people use the wrong one then does it surprise you when they are corrected?
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Doesn't matter who praised Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2, unless you have an inferiority complex. And if we get real technical, the industry itself hyped Uncharted 2's & Killzone 2's visuals as "the best onCONSOLES", right along with the 'fanboys' you seem so quick to call out. And saying: "PC games look better than console games" well no shit, who argued that they didn't? But in many graphics discussions, PC fans feel obligated to "trash the consoles", which can be down right annoying.
Regardless, no matter who's doing it, it remains an elitist way of thinking, which you seem to support.
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Graceful sidestep. Let me remind you of what I said: "Answer me this, who got more praise for Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2? Was it the PS3 or was it the teams whom made the game?"
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I'll answer that: both. Much of that is to distnguish the 360 and PS3 systems (since so many love to call them: identical), which they certainly aren't. In Crytek's case, it will be more praise going to them than the device(s) they are developing the game on. They'll develop the console versions as close as they can to each other, while taking advantage of the advanced power of the PC.
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the reviewers praised the devs, the gamers praised the console.only people on this site praise the devs. go to random people on youtube and they will say the ps3 has better graphics, when its the devs who are better, yes cell is a very good technology but bad devs cant use it well.
in the eyes of a pc gamer uncharted 2, god of war 3, and killzone 2 dont deserve praise. yet if they were on pc they would have said otherwise(they would look much better on pc). people should look at them and say that they do deserve praise because with the hardware the devs did a great job.
i havent seen any game with better character details then god of war 3, yes cell helped, but its mainly because of the devs.
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Bold A: Not completely true. Although we're speaking mainly about this site, reviewers and gamers alike praised both the hardware and the devs, especially in Uncharted 2's case.
Bold B: What that says is, it's a mixture of both. It's not "just"the dev or "just" the system.
Your second paragraph is complimentary to my original point.
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i mainly quoted to say bold A.
and as for bold B im saying that its mainly the devs and the hardware helps. so lets say 80% devs 20% hardware. i know this is gong to be controversial, but i think that gow3 has the most detailed character models i have seen on any platform.
at bold A: yes on this site, people arent biased on this site. every day when i watch a youtube video in the comments below their are fanboys screaming "ps3 has better graphics because of uc2 and kz2". i think it has better graphics mainly because of the devs.
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not true at all. Everyone has a personal bias somewhere. It's all in how people choose to express it. There are plenty of fans of "x" platform that are fair enough to have a reasonable debate with.
And as to why a game has better graphics, a lot of "why" will be ignored, it'll just be. Those gamers, again, wouldn't have that ammo without the help of reviewers and journalists within the industry.
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