MARCUSDJACKSON said:
TheRealMafoo said:
superchunk said:
TheRealMafoo said:
superchunk said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Odd that you feel this way over this issue. Being I have the same opinion on it as Obama.
He said when he commented on the center, he was only talking about the legality of it (and we have the same opinion legally), he said he was not commenting on the wisdom of it. This was made in defense of his comments, meaning he must not think it's a very wise move (same as me).
Sorry you dislike Obama and I for having this view, but that's the way we see it.
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I think his latest comments and those by many politicians, are simply rhetoric due to the entire conflict as they don't want to appear being against the perceived majority.
The fact remains that the entire debate is pointless and a hoopla over what is in reality nothing but right-wing propoganda from Islamaphobia idiots who would rather shred the Constitution so they could rewrite it according to their own extremist points of view.
Just look at how it was originially sold to the masses as being 'on' or 'at' ground zero which is completely false. On top of that they continue to slander an Imam who is not even close to terrorist ideologies.
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If it's just right wing propaganda hoopla that means nothing, who cares? Why should Obama be so weak minded if he really thinks building it is a good idea, only to please a few right wing nut jobs?
Your not making much sense.
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No, its that right wing 1/2 truth crap that has built up an overall media partial information peice that allowed a large number of people to think this is really some issue to stand against. That has forced politicians, who may or may not believe in what they are actually saying, to be political and continuously say what is most popular.
Obama took a good stand on the legality, but I think he bowed to the popular idea that it in itself is somehow wrong.
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lol, Obama didn't take a "good stand" on the legality... he just said what everyone is saying. NO ONE SAYS IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO BUILD!!!
I don't know how to make that any more clear.
And what your telling me, is all those Muslims who are against it are listening to conservative talk radio, and watching Fox News? Come on man. Your smarter then that.
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last full sentence. i can agree with that. if they had the time they wouldn't watch fox news or conservative radio.
superchunk
listen to what the guy is saying, and stop betting a dead horse.
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1. There have been plenty of people on the right and on this site that said it should be blocked/stopped from happening. There were even court cases about it.
2. The Muslims that are for moving it are not saying that because it is somehow wrong or insensitive to the ground zero issue, but because they simply want to avoid conflict that has grown past its roots on talk radio/Fox News.
I don't walk away from an argument just to avoid the argument. Right or wrong, I think you should voice your opinion and stand to it unless you are voted out.
This entire issue was created based on half truths and shouldn't even be being discussed on this scale. The first time some jackass on Fox news said 'zomg their building a mosque on ground zero!!!11eleven', someone should have said 'stfu, no they are not, its two blocks away and just around the corner from an existing mosque'.
There is absolutely no reason this mosque shouldn't be built from any point of view. Moving it out a further 80 feet next to the existing mosque would be stupid and petty.
Not to mention, I think this is just an overall Islamaphobia issue as there are other Mosques around the nation that are getting just as much local flak as this one is. Muslims have become the new commies of this crazed nation.
