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nobodyspecial said:
 

You won't reply to my second paragraph because you've run out of arguments. You won't admit to the FACT that using a steering wheel and pedals is less efficient than a joypad because if you did you know you'd have to admit that you've lost the debate. And take for example Crazy Tazi or other free-roaming driving games, you often have to do 360 degree turns in 1 second in those don't you? Oops, forgot about that didn't you? (In fact most if not all racing games have tracks with tight hairpins which require you to do if not 360 degree turns in 1 second then close to 360 degrees.) Did I say joypads were faster than lightguns in shooting games? (Although technically they can be if the game allows you to make the aiming speed high enough but that would make the game much harder and probably only people with amazing joypad skills could play it like that.) I said a joypad is more efficient than a lightgun for shooting games, which it is since you have to move less and use less energy using a joypad as you only have to move a thumb and finger (or fingers if the game has grenades and/or the ability to switch weapons manually) wheareas you have to move your arm, including your hand, and finger/s with a lightgun. In fact you'd have to move your other arm too if the game had grenades and/or manual weapon changing and the button/s for them were out of reach of your fingers of the hand holding the lightgun. You're the one it seems useless to talk to as you won't accept the facts.

Like I said, I didnt read it, why would I lie? Im not reading the rest of your wall of text either. Too bad I didnt remember that discussion was in this thread lol.