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Resident_Hazard on 17 August 2010
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Veder Juda said:
Resident_Hazard said:
Veder Juda said:
Resident_Hazard said:

I think that Nintendo may reveal a Wii successor at next year's E3 for one main reason:  The 3DS is going to make the Wii look dated.  I mean more than it does already.  The portable system should never out-perform the home console, and the 3DS is going to do just that--especially with the rumored tech inside out-performing the Wii.

I think the next Wii is coming sooner than the next Xbox or Playstation.  Nintendo is forcing themselves to upgrade.

I don't think the 3DS makes the Wii look any more dated than the PS3 and the 360 already do.


This is much different.  Nintendo doesn't make the PS3 or X360--nor are they portable systems which are typically a generation behind home consoles.  This is a second machine from Nintendo--and a portable one--that will outshine the Wii.  "If Nintendo can pull off 'HD--style graphics' in portable form, why couldn't they do this with the Wii?" 

Furthermore, the Wii will still likely cost more than the 3DS.  So what sense does it make to have a weaker home console priced more--or even comparitively--to a clearly much more powerful handheld system. 

Nintendo has the next Wii coming, and probably fairly soon (maybe even announced by E3 2011), otherwise they're going to look pretty damn ridiculous with a powerful handheld and a wimpy home console.

Graphics are not the Wii's big selling point, and Nintendo is not treating graphics like they're the be-all-end-all of video games with the 3DS. 

The big difference between the Wii and the 3DS is the motion controller, games made for the Wiimote and Nunchuk, won't work on the 3DS, so the 3DS doesn't infringe on the Wii's market.  Also, unless Nintendo offers an option to play 3DS games on a TV, which I doubt, then the Wii has the advantage that you play it on a large TV screen, instead of the small screens of the 3DS.

You completely don't understand what I'm saying.  I didn't say the 3DS would cut into the Wii's market, I didn't say that Nintendo is treating graphics like a be-all-end-all, and I made no comment about 3-D or TV play.

This is about tech, and face it, video game systems have always had their tech initially measured by the graphics of the games they have.  It's an easy, generally logical on-the-spot judgement.  Advanced tech in these things always has graphics to match--except maybe in the old TurboGrafx-16 which had a 16-bit graphics processor, and an 8-bit CPU.  And even then, it gave the impression that the system was technically superior to the NES (which, as I recall, it actually was).  Nintendo has always, except for the Wii and DS, been big on graphics and advanced hardware.  The SNES, N64, and GameCube were all very powerful machines in their time--and they all had graphics-heavy games showcasing the systems. 

This whole "graphics don't matter" crap is the mantra of, dare I say (and I mean no offense to you or anyone else), people who would generally be considered "Wii ___boys."  Nobody ever talked like this until there was this need to defend the Wii for being two GameCube's "duck-taped together" as was once famously uttered.    If graphics didn't matter, Super Mario Galaxy wouldn't be gorgeous.  What's the first thing anyone says about the Virtual Boy?  The hideous red & black graphics.  What was the purpose of Luigi's Mansion?  To show off the incredible depth of abilities--graphically--on the GameCube.  High poly counts, detailed textures, excellent lighting--hallmarks of Luigi's Mansion.  I'm not going to argue gameplay--we all know that's important.

But so are graphics.

What's the focus of the 3DS?  Fucking 3-D graphics.  Visual 3-D has been stated by editors at places like IGN that it really adds nothing to the gameplay--it's all just cosmetic.  Ironically, the Virtual Boy's 3-D was intended to be a major part of the gameplay.  On the 3DS?  You can shut it off.

By pretty much everyone in the world, we judge things visually.  We judge hardware tech visually.  When the 3DS comes out, the Wii will look horribly inferior.  The new Wii is coming sooner than some of us may think.