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superchunk on 16 August 2010
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Maelstrome said:
superchunk said:
Maelstrome said:

if the whole world was devout muslim you wouldnt have thought much of it.

if the victims were part of that faith then they had it comming to them. if they werent part of it. thats a whole different can of worms.


Wrong. The Qur'an does not say anything killing those that cheat in marriage. This is simply extremism at its finest.

makes me wonder why they were stoned. i didnt mention the qur'an, but i see where you are coming from.  im guessing that you are muslim or know about it more than i do so ill concede to that.

all that leaves is where the idea of stoning the victims came from. is it tied to the faith in any way or was it just blind extremists?

The Taliban and other groups who share their extreme views many times don't take their laws from the Quran. Instead they take it from the collection of supposed qoutes of the Prophet; Sunni Muslims as an example follow the Sunnah.

These quotes are stupid as they were written down hundreds of years after the Prophet died as he forbade scribes from writing down anything he didn't say came directly from God, i.e. the Quran. On top of that, these quotes often contradict each other and especially the Quran itself.

Finally, the quotes vary widely depending on the religious views of that area. Saudi's and the Taliban believe in a very strict form of this that didnt' even exist 100 years ago and has gotten worse over time. Including using death penalty for so many things that the Quran doesnt mention.

In fact, death penalty in the Quran is only mentioned for treason and murder. In the case of treason it requires mutliple eye witnesses in good standing that can prove (not much different that today's policies) and in the case of murder its actually supposed to be the family of the victim who makes the choice if the murderer dies or not and that it is better to choose life as God is the most-forgiving and you should strive to be forgiving as well. In opposition to common thought, the Quran actually leans more to 'turning the cheek' than it does 'eye for an eye'.