Hardcore games

[Icyedge]

The Ghost of RubangB said:

Icyedge said:

Kantor said:

Tetris and Doom. i.e: The somewhat difficult ones

I think its more about the complexity of the gameplay/story than the difficulty to achieve good score. In my opinion you can be a hardcore tetris player but that doesnt make tetris an hardcore game. What do you think?

Story has nothing to do with it.  Any 2-D platformer is more hardcore than Heavy Rain or Metal Gear Solid 4.

Why not? I think an engaging story will help make a game hardcore. I think that because having an engaging story makes a game more complex. But, I dont mean that the story by itself will make a game hardcore. Now, can you explain why a 2D platformer is more hardcore than metal gear solid 4?