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Hephaestos said:


I left out GT3 cause the numbers here are vastly incomplete and it didn't serve the argument, GT3 sold when the PS2 was between 20M and 82M.... which is still significant.

but still you claimed previous GT games had 100 or what 130-140m userbase

On the rest, I stand corrected, I was unaware of the VGC numbers problems... though you say shipped and not sold :p

no problem

in any case, GT4 sold much less, especially if you compare it to the install base, was it the promise of GT5 that reduced the sales?

it was a second one in the series and and close to GT3 in quality and also that times racers  had competition from the nFS underground  success