Do you honestly believe Obama has a chance in 2012?

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Killiana1a said:

As one of those registered Democrats aged 18-30 years old who voted for Obama in 2008, I will not vote for him in 2012. Here is why:

1. Lack of Priorities

I voted for Obama because I thought he would turn the Bush Recession into a boom. Nope, instead Obama's stimulus was a payback to the environmental groups, teacher's unions, trial attorneys, public employee unions, and other liberal leaning interest groups who voted as a bloc for him. Furthermore, after the stimulus he spent a year dicking around with healthcare reform, which is viewed by my private employer and those of my friends as doing nothing but raising healthcare costs on the private sector. Regarding financial reform, Obama has let "too big too fail" to persist.

2. Obama's Hubris

If you think LeBron has an ego, Obama has a better reason to have a larger ego. From every speech I see, Obama has himself convinced that he is living history, a messiah figure, and will go down as one of the top 5 US Presidents along with Washington and Lincoln. I do not respect this, Bush may have been arrogant and single-minded, but Obama's hubris is completely and utterly disgusting.

3. Foreign Policy

We went from the cowboy in Bush to the pathetic apologist. No US President should or ever feel the need to apologize for America's foreign policy. American Exceptionalism is just that, America as a nation of immigrants in a world where past empires have conquered, pillaged raped, sowed salt in Carthaginian lands, is better than those that came before it. Natve Americans, Alaskans, and Hawaiians have legitimate beefs with American colonization and forced assimilation, but besides two nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, collateral damage in the Middle East, and the use of napalm during the Vietnam War, America has been a far more decent empire than the British, French, Romans, Babylonians, Mongols, Greeks, and on.

Obama just does not get this and apologizes for not having the same opinion as some radical cleric in the Middle East. Obama should never apologize whenever himself or his predecessor has taken action to protect American interests be it exporting Democracy via preemptive warfare or using nations with dictators as an excuse to shore up some oil reserves. America is a strong nation with the will to throw it's strength around. The alternative, the much vaunted United Nations does not have a sterling track record itself other than being a voice box for those with a beeft against the US.

Gross.  This is why we as a country are screwed.  If we invest in anything linked to a union, it's a giveaway and a liberal sellout.  So Repubs never will, and the Dems need to try to mitigate the damage.  Despite the fact that the vast majority of union jobs are manufacturing/construction (which we need more of desperately), education (district debts spiraling out of control for over a decade nationwide, teacher wages up just 3% adjusted for inflation since 1973 despite much more costly and stringent licensing and preparatory requirements), police/firefighter/health care jobs.   It's completely ridiculous to just shrug it off as a giveaway.  There is NOTHING we can do as a country that is more important than keeping kids safe and getting them educated.  If you don't do that, the rest is pointless. 

 

I mean your argument against the health care plan is "which is viewed by my private employer and those of my friends as doing nothing but raising healthcare costs on the private sector."  Yes.  I'm sure they have done a detailed analysis on the consequences versus staying on our completely unmanageable path that we'd been on.  

#2 is an opinion, so whatever you like.  I don't understand how you can on one hand want the leader of the free world and proponent of American exceptionalism simultaneously  to be at the same time completely humble and self-affacing while at the same time stormtrooping his way across the throats of the rest of the world.  But to each his own.  That worked so well with Bush.  

I'm not sure how well your life works when you roll through it pretending your way is the only way and never admitting flaws and errors, but I know mine wouldn't go so well.  We tried pushing people around and working unilaterally.  It failed miserably.  Obama had little choice but to be more congenial and humble.  In case you haven't noticed, we are completely reliant on India, and China, and Saudi Arabia, etc etc. nowadays.  Not vice versa.