theprof00 said:
Smashchu2 said:
theprof00 said:
Smashchu2 said:
theprof00 said:
Smashchu2 said:
Mr Puggsly said:
Smashchu2 said:
Doubtful. Looking at Kinect, I'll be surprised if it sells 2 million. The hardware just doesn't work. I think this will be the straw that breaks the camels back for Microsoft. I expect this will cause much anger from investors, diehard fans and early buyers. I think they will leave the business soon after.
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Yeah, I'm sure that's the experience everyone had with the Kinect. Lets ignore the vast majority of videos where it plays fine. Maybe you're too bias to weigh in on this discussion.
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Except all videos of it working fine are faked by Microsoft. There is enough evidence to say their E3 Press Conference was fake. People couldn't even play it there.
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It works. It's just a "crappy product for a crappy consumer". It lags, it hangs, and it's limited. But it definitely works. MS' fakeries were done in order to show the game without lag and hang. It was shown on Jimmy Fallon show working, but lagging.
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Except for the fact that the Wii worked. It may not have been the best, but it worked. There was not a five second delay when you swung the bat or threw a punch. The reason the Wii Remote is crappy is because it is limited. Everything outside of pointing and pulling is gester based.
Kinect, on the other hand, is bad. It just does not work. People could easily play the Wii. They can not for Kinect,. Kinect will be the fire that kills the XBox line.
@Mr. Puggsly: Kinect E3 videos were all faked. It the most logical explination for it working on stage but when people play it. Most people have noticed that the game acts before the player does anything. You can see this in Kinectamels. Here is proof of it.
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Kinect does work. It isn't a 5 second delay, but there is a slight delay. However, given the imprecise nature of the games that have been demonstrated, it really doesn't matter if it's delayed or not. Casuals don't care if they got every single ring, they just care that they are having fun.
Everything at e3 was staged, I agree. The tried to streamline their presentation but at the same time caused a huge stir and really hurt their image in the eyes of the people who watch e3.
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Ummm, you do notice that the game is moving before the player, right?
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you don't seem to understand my point. Kinect is playable, but they didn't want any hangups or criticisms like for example what happened with zelda. All those gamers were actors even the little girl with skittles. None of them were actually playing wii, but it doesn't matter to the consumer, the filthy casuals, because none of the games require precision and as long as the game is fun, it doesn't matter if it is moving by even a half second.
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You know the big reason why Kinect and Move will fail? Because there are executives who think just that.
It surprises me you can think that when evidence dictates that they want quality games. Most third party games on the Wii fail. Nintendo, though, succeeds. This is because Nintendo actually takes those customers seriously. Third parties saw them as an easy cash in which is why they failed. Microsoft obviously only sees them in terms of marketing demographics. You can see this in their press conferense.
These customers demand quality product, but they demand different things than the mainstream market. "Crappy product for crappy customers," is what the executives think. These customers are not crappy and the Wii Remote is not a crappy product. It is different. But it is this product that will whipe out many businesses from the industry.
Kinect is the end of the XBox brand. There will be such back lash from everyone that Microsoft would not be able to put out consoles.
