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Soleron said:
Squilliam said:
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Realistically however they only need a 230-50mm^2 5780/5790 variant to slot in between Cypress and Juniper. They can premiere the new architecture this year but they don't exactly need to rush out replacements. They could sell the cheap one at $200 and the expensive one at $230 which fills the hole which the GTX 460 is taking adantage of. Then next year they can shrink it down to 28nm and it can become the regular 67xx series of GPU and perhaps even cover the 66xx range as well.

The GTX 460 is a bigger chip than Cypress and it's yielding worse. They could sell the 5870 at $200 and make more profit than Nvidia. Just putting the 5850 at $250 and 5830 at $180 would depress GTX 460 sales, and I think they'll do that when supply improves.

Southern Islands is going to have a 20-30% boost in IPC and an increase in shader count too.

The GTX 460 is a ~330mm^2 chip. Charlie was wrong btw. Since it came out later you can assume it'll be better tuned to the 40nm process than Cypress so it may infact have better yields. The reason why they are all salvage parts is because Nvidia doesn't want to kill their own GTX 470 and 480 line like they did when they released the 8800GT. In any case you could say that the pricing it launched at is already a response to Southern Islands, thats a pretty good explanation in itself.

TBH Im not sure what Southern/Northern Islands will be. From what I think I know, it'll have a revamped 4P shader architecture and adjusted ROPs etc.



Tease.