Chunk, all your points are true, but it does not contradict what I said... probably because I was not clear (too many words).
in short:
any populace that lived in one place has an equal right to the land.
Trying to solve the problem by force and losing... means you lost your claim.
From what I recall reading, the Jew militias only started after arab groups orchastred a masacre of jews fueld by thier dislike of seeing them arrive in mass.
It's basically a conquest by immigration (then turned violent).
I personnaly believe no people have any right on any land...hence why the claims are equal to me. You stayed longer? you were there more recently? well all this just means that after one or two more generations, palestinians will have no more claim right?
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