Where would the world be right now if religion never existed?

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Calmador said:

FaRmLaNd said:

Calmador said:

Think Fallout 3

Well that is if Christianity the one true religion didn't exist... rest don't matter much.

No morals? Just survival of the fittest... hell. A heck load more wars too.... or constant war and problems... deadz everywhere... durgz everywhere.... choas... depression.... and bloodz everywhere

The assumption that a person can't be moral without God is foolish. No studies I've read have ever shown a correlation between atheism and crime for example, in-fact quite the opposite, but thats an argument for another day.

It's not an assumption.

I just realized that the concept of morals or love surpassing self-preservation is super-natural ... where as in a machanical like world without G-d like one that evolution suggests, in a world like that ... only staying alive and surviving would matter (think Fallout but worse, horrible world) and mankind has shown to be able to go above that. 

A creator is definitely a plausible idea. Otherwise life becomes cold,gray, a delusion of hell

This is something to accept not argue about, I've learned that a long time ago...  because that's how you go about with the truth. It's not an assumption.

 

 

I just realized that the concept of morals or love surpassing self-preservation is super-natural ... where as in a machanical like world without G-d like one that evolution suggests, in a world like that ... only staying alive and surviving would matter (think Fallout but worse, horrible world) and mankind has shown to be able to go above that.

Animals that live in groups form interpersonal relationships in order to survive. They have behaviours that not only help their survival, but also the survival of the whole group. Living within a society requires certain sacrifices, and sometimes an individual has to risk his own wellbeing in order for the group to survive (and being part of the group he's chances of survival are higher). Check out bees or ants. Bees go kamikaze to save the hive for example (that's alturistic of them).

Human morals are very relative: it used t be that it was perfectly moral to kill anyone from outside your group/tribe/country, but as human population has increased nationas have started cooperating with eachother.

In Fallout there is no societ, but even there people formed groups and had certain rules to maintain the wellbeing of the group. However due to the low resources and harsh living conditions morals were limited to people that were part of your own group (like primitve tribal societies).

This has nothing to do with any deity.

A creator is definitely a plausible idea. Otherwise life becomes cold,gray, a delusion of hell

The fact that "it has to be true 'cause I don't like the alternative" is a weak argument.

This is something to accept not argue about, I've learned that a long time ago...  because that's how you go about with the truth. It's not an assumption.

Why can't thing you call "truth" be debated? Is it maybe 'cause it has no basis in reality?

You're a really good sheep.