sapphi_snake said:
The United States wouldn't have a constitution. Of course the US would have a constotution. LOL... just no mention of that creator thingy. It's hard to say where we would be in terms of technology considering many early institutions of academics were affiliated with religion (in order to educate priests/other religious authorities). Early on education was not valued so much outside of religion. Early education was valued outside of religion... up until Christianity rose in the Romnan Empire. In Medieval Christian Europe only those affiliated with the church had the possiblity to become educated. Yes, science would no longer be restricted by certain religious teachings, however, the advent of science may have been put off by a couple centuries at least. Wrong, the advent of science was put off by a couple of centureis by religion. Laws would be much more difficult to establish as there were be no consensus on an authority to establish said laws. Now this one is just plain stupid. Who's the authority establishing the laws today? I know for sure it ain't no deity. And I also know for sure no deity ever established any laws in the first place. In particular I believe that foreign relations would suffer as people would be swayed more by cultural values rather than religious values Culture and religion constantly interwine, see for example the wearing of the burkha in some predominantly muslim countries (like Saudi Arabia) and not in others (like Turkey). |
The United States wouldn't have a constitution.
Of course the US would have a constotution. LOL... just no mention of that creator thingy.
The constitution would likely lack authority being as there would not be a single/unified source that everyone would agree grants people rights, which is predominantly what the US constitution was intended to do. What else would "grant" people their rights?
It's hard to say where we would be in terms of technology considering many early institutions of academics were affiliated with religion (in order to educate priests/other religious authorities). Early on education was not valued so much outside of religion.
Early education was valued outside of religion... up until Christianity rose in the Romnan Empire. In Medieval Christian Europe only those affiliated with the church had the possiblity to become educated.
Rome's education system was primarily influenced by Greece before Christianity. Early education in Sparta, Greece was primarily for military purposes and was not the most productive learning environment. Athens however did have private institutions which were available to the majority of the public (the poor went to about 13-14 years of age), however, the education provided was poor. The only real opportunities were reserved for private tutoring for the wealthy. After the collapse of Rome and the Dark Ages, Christianity provided a means of a public education system which was not restricted by wealth, even if it was restricted by belief.
Yes, science would no longer be restricted by certain religious teachings, however, the advent of science may have been put off by a couple centuries at least.
Wrong, the advent of science was put off by a couple of centureis by religion.
I will give you that this is really hard to state with certainty, it could have went either way. Early on most advances in science were done by individuals who were likely not swayed greatly by religion and were not participating in many activities in violation of the church. I believe that conflict began to emerge primarily with the theory of evolution, well after the foundation of science. That is not to say there were not conflicts and religion likely did present some issues; one can only speculate whether those influences were greater than religion fostering curiosity over origins and spreading public education systems.
Laws would be much more difficult to establish as there were be no consensus on an authority to establish said laws.
Now this one is just plain stupid. Who's the authority establishing the laws today? I know for sure it ain't no deity. And I also know for sure no deity ever established any laws in the first place.
I think you misinterpreted this one a bit. I do not mean authority as in a particular authority figure, rather, authority as in a source from which one would originate their ethical reasoning. For example, the US judicial system derives it's authority to enact/enforce laws through the constitution. It holds authority only so long as the constitution holds authority and it can not supercede the constitution. With that said, establishing laws would be more difficult as there would be less consensus among the population as to ethical guidelines to establish the original laws. The ideas that we often take for granted (murder,rape,stealing, etc.) are only common because they have been spread through a system of belief such as religion.
In particular I believe that foreign relations would suffer as people would be swayed more by cultural values rather than religious values
Culture and religion constantly interwine, see for example the wearing of the burkha in some predominantly muslim countries (like Saudi Arabia) and not in others (like Turkey).
You just proved my point here. If religion is not present to intertwine with the daily lives of a nation's citizens, some other factor will contribute to their way of lives. Nevertheless, it would still come to be known as culture and would likely be a governing force behind many of their actions.
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