TheRealMafoo said:
steverhcp02 said:
Leunam said:
Why does everyone equal illegals to mexicans? Unless, of course, you're refering specifically to them just for illustration purposes.
I agree with your point. People need to do things the legal way. It took me 14 years to finish the immigration process and seeing all these people crossing the border just like that... it doesn't feel good.
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This is the real problem and why i sympathize with "illegals"
The gun analogy is so off base, Mafoo. How longs the process to legally own a gun? Not long, right? To stay within that scope its reasonable to say if someone wants a gun they can start the process and have a gun rather quickly.
There is a gray area obviously, but im of th emind that when people dont want a gun on record its not to go to the range or shoot a bird.
I also understand its illegal to cross our border yadayadayada but the fact people have to wait 14 years, if you have a family in a terrible situation im not going to judge someone for not wanting their kids to grow up in that situation and for trying to get the hell out of that situation.
I guess im not a black and white guy and i think more with my heart on these matters than my brain.....some may take that out of context but i feel the root of this issue is the length and process and the fact crime in arizona was at an all time low in 2008 when there was reportedly the highest influx of "illegals" leads me to believe the real issue isnt safety.
The process needs to change, imo. This whole issue is a smokescreen anyway.
Give us your sick, tired and poor.......in 14 years when youll all probably be dead.
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It took him 14 years to complete it, not 14 years to get into the US and start improving his life.
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So youre saying the process is easy enough to where a family should simply hold tight rather than chance moving across an imaginary line?
The main problem is you assume the worst in people, i assume there are some bad apples. Even if you want to use numbers, your 1:5, id take helping 80% of people and work on reducing the 20% than destroying everyones life in one fell swoop.
