TheRealMafoo said:
superchunk said:
You're entire theory is biased, baseless, and plainly ignorant.
The greater majority of the illegals are working on our farms, roads, yards, etc, allowing us to have far lower costs on these items, especially food. Its been proven in many studies that the net effect on US is positive.
Are there some bad in the bunch, of course, however, there are far more bad citizens that are a much higher concern than the really small number of illegals who are criminals. I live in Arizona which has, arguably, the worst situation with illegal immigration and more crossers die each year by a large number simply crossing the desert than they do committing crimes.
To remove the illegal issue would hurt us massively in dramatically increased produce far more than anything else. I like cheap tomatos and I know damn well no american will pick them in any way that wouldn't more than double their costs.
http://www.newsweek.com/2010/05/14/why-americans-think-wrongly-that-illegal-immigrants-hurt-the-economy.html
http://www.ehow.com/about_5389828_impact-immigration-economy.html
If I search long enough I could find the paper specific to CA where is proved a removal of immigrants would be severly detrimental to their economy.
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So you pay more for tomatos.
What's right and what's wrong is not based on how much something cost. The right thing is the right thing. The right thing is to uphold out laws. You want people to be allowed to pic fruit for cheep, fine, change the law. But just picking the laws you feel like upholding because you like them, and not upholding the ones you don't like, is fucked up.
We are suposed to be a country of laws, not men. When you get to chose what laws matter and what don't, why have laws?
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Follow EVERY law no matter what the overall issue/circumstance is, right? So you've never jaywalked, went over the speed limit, failed to come to a complete stop, etc, etc?
Laws that are not an attack on someone all have a grey area.
Makeing these people legal and thus 100% awarded US citizen rights would FAR worse for our country than simply keeping the status quo of turning a blind eye on most who are working. You really think the government doesn't know where to find the tens of thousands illegals working on farms and shops around this nation? They simply choose to ignore them because they recognizes its overall benefit for everyone.
