pizzahut451 said:
Rath said:
pizzahut451 said:
So its the religion's fault that some people are filled with hatered and use religion and God as an excuse to harm other people?? What religious book is teaching that??? Almost all religious books (christain, jewish) have the same message of peace and love, its just that some people ignore that and choose to look at the fundmentalists and nut jobs that use religion as an excuse and then by some miracle think that all religious people are like that. And im sorry for all those gay people that got killed but i know for sure that God desnt hate them and that religion didnt killed them, but people.
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Have you read the old testament?!?
That God is all for smiting. Stoning is generally his preferred punishment. Adultery? Stone 'em. Disobedient children? Stone 'em. Homosexuality? Stone 'em.
This book is what is generally used to justify discrimination against homosexuality in all of the Abrahamic religions - including Christainity and Judaism.
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Old Testament was before Jesus came to earth to set things straight...i dont need to say anything else. New Testament is much more important, since why its called ''New'', because of the new moral teachings that are are still ''vaild'' today (until we get Newer Testament) That doesnt mean that Old Testament is completly irrelevant of course.
And those people who got killed under God's command deserved their faith (Soddom and Gommorah, for example).
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You did mention Judaism in your post though who still follow the old testament. In general though the Jews are clever enough not to actually follow the Torah literally because it's a bit brutal.
Also by the old testament not being completely invalid, does that mean you get to pick and chose which parts you obey? That seems to be what many Christians do these days (shellfish are fine, homosexuals are not - despite both being condemned in the same book).
