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richardhutnik said:
chocoloco said:

Unfortunantly, tangible positives would be hard to see on a macro/national scale. Most tangible positives come from the small things in life and not from politics.

I did meant tangible positives in my life... on a personal level.  I went from the IT industry with a Masters degree, and laid off a prolonged period of time.  Then I get a janitor position offered I started, only to have that stopped due to back pain.  I need tangible positive results in my life now, not "hope".

That makes a lot of sense. Not cool to hear a Masters degree cannot guarantee job security and I know all to well what chronic pain does to people. I have seen it for years from my step dad who had brain cancer. So I think its definantly clear that tangible positives in life are very important to every person. To the tangible positives!