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steverhcp02 said:
twesterm said:
steverhcp02 said:


really? Antibiotics? HIV/Aids? Sterile Technique? Carcinogens? Vitamins? Cancers? Vaccines? 

I wonder how roosevelt would feel had we developed a polio vaccine 40 years sooner.

Id say a man speaking on "american values" nearly a hundred years ago who never  was exposed to the 1960's or many other civil rights movements, kosovo, sudan, iraq, WW2 really doesnt have a grasp of where our country is at or the world for that matter in 2010.


So you're basically saying because some things from 100 years ago are invalid, updated, or disproven then all things from 100 years ago must also be wrong?

Shit everybody, the earth is triangle!

Not at all. I understand you want to be sensationlistic with my comment. I simply stated that things change as time moves a long. People get different perspectives and the owrld evolves not only in science but in society as well.

Spare me the condescending comments, i never posed my argument as an absolute, i simply said quoting people from a hundred years ago to prove a stance on a social issue in a country/world that has vastly changed, to me is a little misguided given the context of the subject matter.

Since the debate is subjective its much harder to "prove" anything here. Im simply saying why take a quote form a hundred years ago and apply it to now when the landscape is different? To me its asinine.


There are basic ideas that stay the same and simply throwing something out because it's old is just plain ridiculous.

If we're talking 18th century war tactics, yeah, you shouldn't put a whole lot of stock into that (though important to at least know) but the Roosevelt quote is still relevant today.

Also, if this isn't a blanket statement, I don't know what is:

steverhcp02 said:


We dont apply the same theories in science from hundreds of years ago. I dont see how social/global views can stay set in stone.

That's the kind of statement that makes it sound as if we're just supposed to throw hands in the air and yell everything we know is wrong.