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theARTIST0017 said:
Armads said:
theARTIST0017 said:
vlad321 said:

So I have yet to see a good answer as to why we should listen to God and belive in him and not fairies and unicorns and cyclops and other such creatures which have exactly as much evidence as any god in any religion.

That's ok. Nobody's forcing you to believe in anything. You choose to believe in what you want that's sorta how free will works. If you don't believe in God now, most likely you're not going to believe in him later. Most people don't change.

What makes you think you have free will?

God or not there is no such thing as free will, the timeline of the universe is determined at it's very beginning (though that's not the beginning of time, just the universe, the big bang is the beginning of our universe because any event before the big bang would not have any effect on what happened after that event so therefore it is irrelevant to our universe just as our universe will have no effect upon the next one after the big crunch and next big bang.)

Oh and your bit about people not changing is totally wrong, people changes religions and belief systems all the time.  I was raised Roman catholic, studied buddhism breifly, then settled on an atheistic worldview which accepts logical assertions such as panpsychism versus eliminative materialism; either one is logically sound so I accept them both as possibilities. 

Studies show less than 1/2 of all Americans stay with the faith they were brought up in, most change once or twice in their lives.

No such thing as free will? You seem delusional.

BIG BANG THE BEGINNING? AND YOU CAN BRING ME PAPERS (FACTS) TO PROVE THIS "BIG BANG THEORY". Dude its called the Big Bang Theory for a reason. 

Yeah people change but most likely if you are raised a  certain religion, that is what you will stick to because its 1. what you know and 2. what you've believed your whole life.

"it's called a theory for a reason" man, has no one yet told you that a theory in science must be supported by facts an evidence before it is accepted as a theory?  

Hey guess what?  Gravity is still just a theory

Scientists find definitive proof of the big bang in cosmic microwave background radiation

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=misconceptions-about-the-2005-03

An explanation about how scientists refined the theory to explain the problem of infinite density

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=echoes-from-before-the-bi

An article on how the BBT has stood the test of time and keeps showing itself to be correct

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-big-boost-for-the-big-b

Take note what the scientist says at the bottom of the article because I think it's of importance to the highly religious who denounce science "I am happy that the Big Bang theory passed this test, but it would have been more exciting if the theory had failed and we had to start looking for a new model of the evolution of the Universe"  Science is not dogma, scientists try to prove the BBT wrong all the time because science is about finding the truth, not sticking to old ideals dogmatically.  This is why we abandoned heliocentricity, geocentricity, the belief that the world is flat and other such things that were the science of yesteryear.

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html

January 2001 edition of Scientific American "That the universe is expanding and cooling is the essence of the big bang theory. You will notice I have said nothing about an 'explosion' - the big bang theory describes how our universe is evolving, not how it began"- cosmologist P. J. E. Peebles 

Now personally I take the determinist side when discussing free will and determinism (there's also the third option compatiblism which argues that the two do not contradict and can both exist.)  But really I don't know if this is the thread for that discussion anyways, it actually does not matter if you believe in god or not; determinism vs free will is a complex argument.  You could argue for a god with free will or a godless deterministic universe, or you could argue for a godless universe with free will and a god who determined everything.  I think I'll start a separate thread for that because in here it might get too tangled with people arguing religion which tends to become more heated than that sort of philisophical debate.