Give Us Back The Old Nintendo (Nowgamer article)

[LordTheNightKnight]

Doobie_wop said:

LordTheNightKnight said:

There aren't any qualifiers, were talking about the Wii and not the DS, that's pretty much it. Every point I made was true and still stands, if I was to start listing off games that haven't been released yet or have only released in Japan, then my list would be much larger.

A new IP is vital when introducing new experiences. Despite what many people on this site may think, Mario Galaxy plays alot like Mario Sunshine, which played alot like Mario 64. Mario Kart Wii plays alot like Mario Kart 64 and Double Dash. Super Smash Bros. Brawl was just not as good as the last games in the series due to the controller. We have 8 Mario Partys and they lost their shine after the 4th. Twilight Princess is a port, Pikmin 1 2 are ports, Mario Tennis is a port and Donkey Kong Jungle Beat is a port.

You can tweak thing's here and there, but every Nintendo game stay's essentially the same. Nintendo are boring, they have such great talent and yet we see the same game over and over again.  I expect better from the greatest developers in the world.

What you are describing is sequels that don't change much, not because they are the same IPs.

Oh, and you can't judge Brawl due to one controler option. You can use the GC controller for that as well. Didn't you know that?

And your contention that Nintendo is boring loses validity, as that is a personal opinion, and not a good reason to insist they make new IPs.

Nintendo shouldn't create sequels that don't change much then, as I said before, every gen I expect new experiences and games that are similar to each other are not new experiences. (1)

I shouldn't have to spend more money on an extra accessory to fix the controls in Brawl, they are horrible on the Wiimote.(2)

My opinion is shared by many people, just like the people who wrote the article this thread is based on and just because it's an opinion, it doesn't make it less true.(3) Nintendo have not delivered this gen software wise(4), they have made no effort to fix this problem, they have taken advantage over their nostalgia addicted userbase and introduced the same product over and over again except in different skins. (5)

Third Party support is lacking, yet Nintendo make no effort to fix that problem.(6) Core software has been lacking and yet Nintendo have only now started to fix that problem.(6) New projects and ideas are lacking and Nintendo have no reason to search for them. (7) Being successful has made Nintendo greedy, there sick of being at the bottom and their willing to do anything to stay on top. (8) The fans can keep on deluding themselves, but Nintendo have become the new Sony/Microsoft/Apple hybrid and they don't deserve half the devotion they get.(9)

1. Nintendo is not the only company that does that, so why are you singling them out?

2. Excuse me? You think I'm stating you buy that for that one game? The GC controller would also be for BC with GC games on the Wii, as well as working with VC games. Now even if you don't personally do that, you still shouldn't judge Brawl as though the option isn't there.

3. A subjective opinion cannot be true or false, so claiming it's one or the other is not a valid comment. And just because others share it doesn't mean another other than others share it, and from the sales of these games you are bashing on, you are part of a vocal minority.

4. No, they just haven't made games that pleas you personally, or others, but again, sales show you are a vocal minority.

5. You can't take advantage in the way you are describing unles that is what the people want. You're acting as though it's wrong to cater to their tastes.

6. Bullshit. You call being willing to market Monster Hunter 3 in the west, and even publishing it in Europe, doing nothing? And that's just the most famous thing. Nintendo has been talking to third parties about the Wii, since the beginning. So don't tell me they've been doing nothing.

6. You obviously didn't pay attention to the flood of those in the first two years of the Wii.

7. If there is no reason, then why are you blaming Nintendo for not doing it? Shouldn't you be blaming the lack of reason to do so?

8. God, it's this crap again. Nintendo can't get back on top by doing what you want. They tried that already, and it put them in third place.

9. No, you're just interpreting their actions that way. Nintendo's idea is to combat disinterest in gaming outside your group, and that doesn't make them greedy. It makes them good businessmen.