Why don't you believe in a god?

[dtewi]

trestres said:

dtewi said:

Because I'm being realistic.

The only proof of God is a 2,000 year old book that is not scientific at all.

The universe did not spring from "nothing". I suggest many of you read about some more of the universe's origins than just the Big Bang.

The Oscillating Universe Theory says that the universe ends with a Big Crunch then starts again with a Big Bang. Basically this means that everything has existed forever. It didn't just spring out of nothing, it was just there.

Although this is the same reasoning as God, that everything was just there.

One of the most basic principles of the universe is that matter cannot be destroyed nor created. So the Big Bang did not create any matter, everything in existence was condensed into an infinitely dense point. Many of you are thinking that everything came from nothing, but that is simply not true.

Where did that matter come from? No one knows the answer. Many people are using this as the validation of a God. But the idea that a divine superpower (which need I remind you was also there for all existence, something which you think is impossible for the physical universe) created everything is the most implausible answer of them all.

Wow...

I'm sure you have no idea of what you are talking about now. Do you really think God is only believed to exist by Christians? The notion of God has been brought up way before the big 3 actual monotheist religions came into existance. I don't agree with any of those religions, because they mix traditions and a future history of salvation with the notion of God.

God by itself is an immaterial and atemporal being that trascends this universe. God is the explanation to all the material things. Time itself isn't infinite, it has a beginning. Matter also has a beginning, as proven by science. You said yourself, that you can't explain how that initial condensed mass came into being. The notions of time and matter are only applicable to this universe, outside the universe there's no such thing as matter or time. Therefore believeing that there cannot be anything that's eternal is not logical. If there's something outside the universe, it is eternal (atemporal) and immaterial. That very same thing is god. Do not mix the God from the religions with the notion of God.

The simple reason I used the Bible was because I didn't feel like looking up how old the Quran was.

Got it?

You're saying that anything that is not of this universe is God? Well OK, even though this thread is talking about the omnipotent, omniscient being that created everything.

We don't even know if there is anything outside of this universe, or even if this universe has an end. You can't assume that there is because it's not even proven. It's logical to believe that there are other physical constants outside of this universe (if there is anything outside of this universe) but why would you believe that that is God?

It is perfectly acceptable to believe in the theory of "Beings outside of the universe" thing you brought up. But this needs the assumption that the universe is finite and there is something outside of it, something that you can't prove.