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Soleron said:
thranx said:
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I agree it would benefit me to have healthy, happy neighbors, but  i disagree on the best way to do it. I personaly believe people can take care of themselves, and letting people take care of themselves and teach their offspring how to care for themselves is better than letting the government do it. Look at how helath and education have declined as more government invovlment has come. By not forcing people to do what they have to to survive we are dragging all of america down to the lowest common denominator instead of bringing it up. Telling me and other adults we cannot take care of our selves (which is what having government parent us means) is not good. It is a bad sign that america needs change.

Yes, and that change is more government involvement. Look at Europe (I live in the UK). We have great state medical systems that achieve health for more people than you with vastly less money per person. We have good state education systems that mean anyone capable is able to do the highest qualifications they can [regardless of income, unlike the US] and our minimum high school literacy/numeracy standards are higher than your High School Certificate. With about the same cost per person.

If your arguing people cannot earn eough at the jobs out there well that is a different beast and there are different ways to tackle it.

And those who can't work? Disabled, elderly and those with astronomic medical bills even a job couldn't afford? How would your society help them?



Correct me if I'm wrong,but in the UK don't you get taxed on just about everything and I heard the cost of living is much higher. I heard about the problems on your great medical system. I agree that your education standards are much higher. I just believe more goverment is'nt the answer. I don't want to have to rely on big daddy goverment to take care of me. It's all about being responsible for yourself. I agree,that the goverment should help people that really need it,but it should be on a limited and temporary basis. lol