Soleron said:
thranx said:
I agree it would benefit me to have healthy, happy neighbors, but i disagree on the best way to do it. I personaly believe people can take care of themselves, and letting people take care of themselves and teach their offspring how to care for themselves is better than letting the government do it. Look at how helath and education have declined as more government invovlment has come. By not forcing people to do what they have to to survive we are dragging all of america down to the lowest common denominator instead of bringing it up. Telling me and other adults we cannot take care of our selves (which is what having government parent us means) is not good. It is a bad sign that america needs change.
Yes, and that change is more government involvement. Look at Europe (I live in the UK). We have great state medical systems that achieve health for more people than you with vastly less money per person. We have good state education systems that mean anyone capable is able to do the highest qualifications they can [regardless of income, unlike the US] and our minimum high school literacy/numeracy standards are higher than your High School Certificate. With about the same cost per person.
If your arguing people cannot earn eough at the jobs out there well that is a different beast and there are different ways to tackle it.
And those who can't work? Disabled, elderly and those with astronomic medical bills even a job couldn't afford? How would your society help them?
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Perhaps with their added funds their friends and family can give a helping hand. I am not heartless or stupind. Do you think people have no heart? If your mother/brother/sister/son is sick would you not help them? I personaly believe in the long run a society that values hard work wil be able to overcome more problems and advance farther than a society that rewards not working, or taking someones hard earned money. America got pretty far with out all of these prgrams, and the states that have the most of them (california) are worse offf than those with the least of them (texas)
People have always had disabilities and grown old, they have survived this long with out all of this some how I think they will find a way.
Edit: As someone who grew up fairly poor in the US I can tell you we all have access to eucation. I know of no one who wanted to go to school who could not. We have community colleges, trade schools, and universities. But at the same time not everyone should go to school for four years. In my profffesion it would not help me at all.
