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Slimebeast said:

----- At least it's better than the other side of the discussion: "there is no biological basis". A twin study is very powerful, it's not something you dismiss as easily as you make it sound. But it's expected, this reply. I do the same. If you show me a reconstruction of old monkey skulls I will likely say it was a bad study.

 ** These kind of studies are only relevant on scientific circles where few empirical data is obtained and analyzed. Give that study to any geneticist and you'll get laughed at. Heck, i'm going to give it to my thesis professor (pHD in molecular genetics, organic chemistry and genetic engineering) and see his reaction. I'll be back with is reply tomorrow. 

Unless you show me some solid empirical study on how that kind of behaviour really is presented on the genomic level (and such a study can be done on Mice), it still frivolous, in the scientific level.  

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You're making a fundamental error here. I know from my own field (medicine) that hundreds of diseases and personality disorders were proven to be hereditally determined long before any elaborate DNA sequencing of humans was available. A huge share of these studies were, and still are, based on twin studies. They've so far been essential for science on nature vs nurture.

You still don't seem to understand or accept that strong causality links between genetics and traits such as behaviour can be proved without any detailed analysis of DNA whatsoever.

There's no reason for a geneticist to laugh at this particular study.

I'll laugh at the study then.

You can't have a sociological study based upon twins.

Why? Because they have the same freaking up bringing. Same mother and father, brothers and sisters. They learn the same values, go to the same school, they learn the same things. How do you know the fact they lived in the same house and went to the same school did not cause it? What is your proof that genetics were the cause?

And you can't compare hereditary diseases to sociological behaviors. Why? Because those diseases are proven to be rooted in DNA, while sociological behaviors haven't been proven to be in DNA once.