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NoddyHolder said:
Cameron is a smarmy condesending c**t.
the "big society" is utter dross to hide privatisation and shafting of the poor.
the cuts will devestate much of the UK and young people in particular may never recover from it.
well done Tory Scum, you acheieved what Hitler failed, you have begun the anhilation of the UK.
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Actually he is trying to save the UK from the bloodshed and pain casued by the last government. Do you really need to compare Cameron to Hitler...?
If you have debt it's in my opinion best to pay it off as quickly as possible before it inflates, paying over 30 years or whatever is just going to lump more costs onto the overall bill. Why is it we have the largest budget defecit in the G20? Was that the Conservatives? NoddyHolder, your just critical of pretty much everything...
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1) bullshit, he can do that in different ways that dont screw the nation and its people over.
2) I didnt say they were to blame? I know Labour are just as bad (Capitalists too).
3) they need to pay down the debt, sure, but they can at least do it over a longer period (not 30 years obviously, that would be insane, im thinking more like 8-10 years)
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Ok...who would you vote for then? If even the left centre labour are not socialist?
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Labour are Centre Right...everyone who knows even a basic amount about UK politics knows that.
I would vote for the Socialist Party, I think I linked to there site for someone else earlier in the thread, if not, I can do so again for you.
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Communist Party-------------------------Liberal Democrats---Labour---Conservatives-------------------------BNP
Even someone with a basic grasp of UK politics knows that.
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clearly not.
Socialism is not the same as Communism btw...
okay, lets start with the Left: from most left to least
Socialist Party------------------------------------------Green Party----------------------------------
now the right: from most right to least
BNP----UKIP--------Conservatives---Labour------Liberal Democrats------------------------
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Sorry chief, just to correct you, Liberal Democrats are centre liberal, while Labour Party are a centre socialist party, and therefore:
Socialist Party ------------------ (Old) Labour --- (New) Labour --- LibDems --- Conservative ------------ UKIP ------------------------- BNP
The Labour Party were built on the socialist principles of workers rights and welfare - a watered down version of the socialist principles that fit the capitalist democracy of the UK while representing the rights of the working class.
(whether or not that are still honest to those principles under 'New Labour' is a different argument)
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as someone who actually is a Left Wing Socialist, I can tell you that New Labour and the Lib Dems are both right wing.
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Under your definition, are there any countries in the world which are "socialist"?
Apart from America of course  JOKE!
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Cuba? Beloruss?
I wouldn't want to class North Korea as socialist though.
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Are the above countries mentioned prospering from this political way?
Anyway, I see Labour as socialist.....my definition varies to you guys.
