Smidlee said:
richardhutnik said:
Smidlee said:
Why ? Is it because these games required more thinking than button mashing? Just because Civilization was first a board game I don't see why this would make Civ 5 less of a video game.
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Civilization, the computer game, is not based on the boardgame "Civilization" which was published by Avalon Hill (and others) but the computer game "Empire" I believe. It also has stong ties to Simcity, and Sid Meier actually had Simcity in mind when he was originally doing it ("Empire" became the shift that made it what it became).
And there is clearly a difference between interactive fiction and a game, although videogames tends to be a catch all for them.
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You can easily call Red Dead Redemption an interactive fiction.
I do remember Empire yet I can see Sid Meier take some ideas especially tech age from the original board game. They finally did make a board game after the video game.
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I believe when the action genre of videogame absorbed adventure games, it led to the modern trend in videogames we see in the blockbusters. The focus on story has gotten elevated, to the extend most of the single-player sided games can be seen as interactive fiction, more than traditional games. The multiplayer vs side still holds onto the traditional definition of games.
And here is the info on Civilization:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilization_(video_game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Bunten_Berry
So, there is validity to the original argument, and I do stand a bit corrected.
