Slimebeast said:
zexen_lowe said:
Slimebeast said:
You are ridiculos. If homophobia only had cultural reasons males would have started to fcuk each other ages ago, as horny as most men are.
Besides, it doesn't matter what you personally feel, we're talking populations here. For every man who is neutral towards male on male sex there's at least five who are repulsed by it.
And don't blame it on religion. All through history, in nearly all cultures everywhere on earth homosexuality has been a huge taboo. Which again proves that it has biological roots.
I refuse to discuss this. That repulsion towards homosexual acts is genetic is a fact.
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Sigh....the things you gotta read here...
They have...some men have been fucking each other since we evolved from monkeys...after all, animals also have homosexual intercourse, it's only natural that we by instinct did the same. Then civilization came, they had various degrees of tolerance towards homosexual acts, the most well known is Greece, which as everybody knows considered sex between men as the only true act of love and only encouraged sex with women so they could procreate. I don't support that way of thinking either, but it's what they thought.
In the end, homosexuality (or rather, intercourse between humans of the same gender, as ancient civilizations didn't feel the need to give it a name, there wasn't any "sexual orientation") has always existed with various degrees of tolerance. Saying that homophobia is genetic is simply ridiculous. You're not "programmed" to feel repulsion for anything, of course there are things that you'll like more and things you'll like less, and you can't change that, but it hardly has anything to do with homophobia, that is caused by how you're brought up. If you're as a kid are told constantly that homosexuality is repulsive, it's likely you'll end up thinking that, if I tell you that it's the only way to go, you'll think that, and if I tell you it's no difference and that every human does whatever he likes, then you'll grow up a tolerant non-homophobic person.
But whatever, since you say it's a fact, let's see your proof. Good luck finding it, because there's none
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We're just repeating the same arguments over and over. But yes we're programmed to repulsion towards lots and lots of things. Fear of height, fear of snakes, fear of dark etc.
I'll just clarify one thing. Obviously homosexual men have had sex all through history, I'm in no way denying that, but I wasn't refering to them in that first sentence, I was refering to the majority of males.
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Actually, the repetition all seems to be on one side. Several things have been given to you, known facts, if you will (homophobia =/= heterosexual, homosexual acts in other primates, ancient Greek culture, non-Christian societies, etc), yet you are the one who keeps saying, unsubstanciatively, that it is genetic to repel at the idea of a homosexual act. So, if this is so genetic, where's the proof? And what is it that makes people gay? I'm glad to see that you've not tried denying that they exist, but if it were truely genetic, then wouldn't this "repulsive gene" have taken over by now, through natural selection?
As for the other assertions you make, I can also say that those are a load of bull. My mother has a fear of snakes, why don't I? If a fear of heights was genetic, why was I able to get over mine? And where's my fear of the dark, something I actually revel in? These that you mention are learned traits, not anything to do with genetics.
