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Solid_Snake4RD said:
Millenium said:

The chances of Sony and Microsoft releasing their next consoles before or in early 2012 are slim to none, right now they will both be focused on recouping their losses so far,which might be easier for Microsoft than it will be for Sony.

even with losses MS wouldn't really care,their main aim is to release infront of PS4

As for the succesor to the Wii, i could see it being sold as early as Q2 2012, for the simple fact, despite the Wii still selling great numbers, they are actualy starting to slow down, and with the limited types of software for the consoles, i don't see it going for another 3 years like it is now.

NOBODY releases a console in Q2

They have 0.0% reason not to anymore, people buy mid season also nowadays, and it will help a company to "stock up" for the holiday season.

The lack of DVD playback doesn't help either,on they were buying it for something else

is that what people were buying Wii for??????????????

Nope, but: IT CAN'T HURT, and seeing how the PS2 and Xbox already had it, it's really backwards for Wii not to have it.

and i think DVD playback was added in 2007 or 2008 models 

i bought a Wii in 2009, no Dvd playback, and it's a 2009 model.

Right now as i see it:

inside of April/May/June 2012, succesor to the Wii will be released, with hardware about 50% stronger than the Xbox 360 is, harddrive of 20-100 GB, with DVD playback.

DVD playback wouldn't really do anything as people already have DVD players

As i said: Dvd playback can't hurt, it makes a console simply more multifunctional, oh and b: I don't have a dvd player, i can simply use my Xbox 360 and PS3 for that.

Between November 2012, and April 2013: Xbox 3 release,

Simply won't happen after November 2012

How would you know, do you work at Microsoft? Are you their entertainment divisions operating officer? Which will be smiling really hard due to current 360 sales btw.

Components will probably be a smaller manufacturing size than they were on the early Xbox 360's, they will avoid a new RROD issue at all costs. As for release price: $399-449.

whay are you even comparing it with 360 component sizes and RROD.

you are making it sound like it is a redesign and not a new console

All consoles are redesigns as much as they are evolutions, as for Xbox 3 specs, it's just extra information, it has A: no extra value to a sales discussion, and B: No reason for you to get your panties wet.

Finally: PS4...  early 2013, evolution of the PS3 rather than a revolution, no drastic changes as they made from PS2 to PS3., price: $399-$449.

noway it will happen early 2013,hands down late 2013

and price would no way be over $399

Wouldn't be suprised if they go 449, it's not that bad in comparison to the PS3 launch, as for late 2013, perhaps, depends on how strong the PS3 will keep going.

(They're not stupid enough to make the same mistake twice)

and still you expected them to price it between $399-499..............lol

Your most laughable "comeback" yet, a price between 399-449 (where the hell did you read 499?) is quite a bit different than $599.

Sony will also make a attempt to make PSN Plus in the same quality region by then, as XBL is now,

they are already trying and PSN plus is a different service

So, you're half assing a agreement with me, and then half assing not agreeing with me, interesting...

and Sony will be likely to develop PS4 headsets this time around, instead of opting for consumers to buy their own headsets as they did with the PS3.

it would be better for them to make a good standalone one than the cheap 360 ones

Funny, what exactly were you thinking i was implying they make?

Oh and just so we don't get off on the wrong foot, nothing in my post(s) is meant as any form of attack against you.