Smidlee said:
Pyro as Bill said:
Smidlee said:
Pyro as Bill said:
A retarded game is one that tries to be a storybook and could barely be described as a game, nevermind a videogame.
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You do know that there were "story games" back in C64 days and some of them were pretty tough. If you refer to Metal Gear the story has always been a part of that series. Because of this is why it was one of my favorite NES games.
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I know how long they've been around and I never considered them games whether it was a text adventure in a book or on a screen. Call them interactive fiction or whatever but they're not games or videogames. Online poker isn't a videogame but it's still a game. Like poker, stories can be digitized. Just because you're pressing A to go to page 46, doesn't make it a videogame.
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Why ? Is it because these games required more thinking than button mashing? Just because Civilization was first a board game I don't see why this would make Civ 5 less of a video game.
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Civilization, the computer game, is not based on the boardgame "Civilization" which was published by Avalon Hill (and others) but the computer game "Empire" I believe. It also has stong ties to Simcity, and Sid Meier actually had Simcity in mind when he was originally doing it ("Empire" became the shift that made it what it became).
And there is clearly a difference between interactive fiction and a game, although videogames tends to be a catch all for them.