Female protagonist? What do you think?

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Khuutra said:

Seeking advice and needing protection as a beginning does not mean that a character can't grow and become something strong and self-realized. Of course, needing protection when an entire country it trying to kill you makes sense- Eirika's entire initial quest is based around finding and protecting her brother. Ephraim choosing to do something foolish didn't mean anthing in that context.

Lyndis is never "protected" by anyone. That's verifiably false. People might come to her aid, but it's the same as Hector coming to Eliwood's aid - a consequence on the story, and not a result of her gender.

Micaiah didn't need protection form Sothe: Sothe protected her out of love and fear, not because she wanted it or needed it. You're ignoring the intents of both characters.

And hold the Hell up about Elincia. She wasn't helpless while watching Lucia be executed - that was one of the most important and empowered moments for any character in the series, when Elincia was able to put aside her feelings as Lucia's friend and act as a monarch has to, saving her kingdom in place of acting selfishly. It was the moment when Elincia really became a proper queen, when she proved herself as a woman of iron and able of acting abovee and beyond what was expected of her.

Elincia's ability as a fully realized and strong woman was the entire point of her conflict with Ludveck - he believed she was too weak and womanly to lead Crimea, that she would be too personal and weak to keep him prisoner while Lucia's life was threatened, but she wasn't. The whole point of that scene is that she was strong, much stronger than the enemy gave her credit for, and forcing herelf to watch Lucia be hanged was making herself face the consequences of her necessary actions as a queen.

Elincia was an excellent example of a feminist character who grows past the confines of patriarchy and becomes empowered and capable all on her own.

Lilina did need protecting because she was a little girl. I think it's allowable for little girls to be reassured by promises of protection, especially with being raised by a father as protective and powerful as Hector - and especially with Hector being dead.

And no, that's not a stereotype. That would only be the case if a character needs protection because of their gender, whereas in most cases in Fire Emblem it's based on station, not gender.

I never said lyndis was weak or need protection , I just said that she is bumped from her position of leader and it's sad that there just one fire emblem with a main character girl from the begining to the end (fire emblem 4 i think).

When I was compared Eirika and Ephraim look the situation. In stat , Epraim is just better than Eirika. Look at their peronality , Eirika need protection and advice and she got less leadership than is brother , she has less self confidence she need the more advice posible to make a move. But Epraim ,he take a bunch of knight , charge the enemy and win. Foolishness ? Don't forget that he never pick up a fight that he can't win, he has too much leadership for that. Guess what ? He does not make one error and came back alive without a little wound.And it's always like this.

Lilina is a little girl , so she need protection from a little boy who is the commander of the entire lycia army. Yeah...

And your say that it's not stereotype ? Are you saying that it's a hazard that the girl have almost always less leadership, less confidence and less important position ?

Anyway you say that you never saw this in fire emblem. You refuse to see this because you like the game. Am not alone in the world to think like this. I just want 50/50 with the character but you assume that I want  the character to be identical. Maybe it would be the first step to have more main character girl like lyndis.

Also you saying thing like 'the majority of player play with iron weapon' to convince me for X point.

But when i'm saying that the majority of player have more guy than girl in their final party. You saying that you don't care about the majority of player in forum.

Maybe I was wrong about Elincia but for me , when I saw someone totally dominated by his people and the knight in shinny armor come and save the day, I don't think it's a good exemple.

Anyway , we lost our time here, nobody want to change is mind. Look , I don't say that Fire Emblem is a bad game. I'm just angry because I want more girl like lyndis or imagine a Hector personality put in a girl, that would be cool. I want also a identical number of guy and girl in the group of hero. They are always more guy ruler , important general and I want the developper to put 50/50 but they don't.