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Jo21 said:


and steam before 360. so yeah.... and i am pretty sure many games had small archivements, :D, i had one because i killed omega weapon in FF8

Heheh no.Steam launched achievements there achievement system in 2007.

http://www.giantbomb.com/steam-achievements/92-3280/

While you can say getting "achievements" were always around( mario collecting all stars etc etc) microsoft was the first to put it on a worldwide scale implementing the system to all games.Lets see the naysayers discredit microsoft this one now. :)



SOLIDSNAKE08 said:

its been confirmed today that GT5 has a weather system, track editor and go karts! seriously i think this is going to be the best selling in the series even beating GT3 sales of 14 million plus!