Female protagonist? What do you think?

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lestatdark said:

Weegee said:

lestatdark said:

I_hate_Itagaki said:

lestatdark said:

Female protagonists, as long as they're well portrayed, with actual human similarities and their own intricacies are just as good as a well developed male protagonist. 

Some of my favourite protagonists, not only in games, but in films, are female protagonists, who exude an aura of self-esteem and ability to resolve problems, while still keeping human faucets that are intrinsic to natural human behavior. 

Aya Brea, Selen and Milennia are probably the best videogame protagonists (both female and male) ever created.

OT - I said it on another thread and I'll say it again. People nowadays have no grasp about what the actual meaning behind the word sexist really portrays. Which is an actual shame indeed, seeing how easy such a strong word is thrown around in here, with no actual direct reason as to use it. And it's also extremely funny how somehow, sexist seems to limit itself to a single gender bias against another. It works both ways.

I know you are talking about me. I know what sexism means. Strong word? Most people I met don't care about sexism (just look at the numbers of sexist anime/games, I'm pretty sure you know more than 2 of them). Sexism works both ways, but do you have exemples of games that is sexist towards men? It's quie normal that I hate sexism towards female, because it exists.

Sexism is probably one of the strongest words ever created, because it implies a very serious issue, that's still very preponderant in today's society. 

The lack of interest from most people just shows that it's not as correctly addressed as it should be.

And sexism towards men in games? Pretty easy actually. Usually young boys, kids and some young males are portrayed as annoying brats or whinny "emos" that pretty much get stick not only from men, but from most female gamers as well. It's demeaning to generalize a certain age group like, thus that demeaning act becomes a sexist act, because it's extremely frequent on male portrays than on female portrays.

Yeah but these emo kid are always strong and independant (which is the inverse with the girl in fire emblem) and they are usualy the main character or the big bad guy who control everyone.

There are always exceptions to the rules. In FF13, you had Hope, which was probably one of the most vulnerable and unprotected male character created as of late, which constantly fell in the "whinny kid" label. In contrast, you had Vanille and Fang, which were both very independent women, with their own strong convictions and ideals, even though Vanille supposedly portrayed the "innocent damsel" role. 

And, if you see from my interchange with Khuutra, there are also quite some cases where the female protagonist is also a very strong willed female character. 

I'm not able to speak on behalf of FE, since I'm not particularly into the story of the latest FE games (i've forgotten quite a large deal of the GBA FE's stories), but to generalize that an entire gender is portrayed like "weak and dependent" based on few examples is not the correct thing to do. 

It's true that some developers do portray females (and males) with sexists characteristics, but from what I could grasp from your conversation with Khuutra, you were pinpointing japanese developers exclusively for this fault, which is far from the truth.

Sexism exists everywhere in the world, and those same kind of attitudes are found in the western world in the same frequency (if not more) than in occidental cultures.

I know that there are sexist everywhere in the world and i'm not saying that all japanese are sexist but japan is more sexist than america and/or europe. But anyway , I know that strong girl exist but it's not 50/50 and it's sad. In a lot of WRPG gender does not matter and it's good but in the JRPG where you can create your character, the japanese developper always want to make some diferrence between gender and it's stupid and Inteligent System do this same error.In a Fictional world with magic , all is possible so please don't make girl weaker 'Because is generaly like this in real life' it's stupid. First , it will be evan more hard to balance the unit and second it will turn away feministe guy like me. And to prove my unbias , I think that the class pegasus (which is just for female) is also discriminatory toward guy and it's also stupid. I want 50/50 in my game and Fire emblem don't provide this.  The first step would be to make the same amount of playable guy and girl in the game.

I was not saying that Fire emblem was bad or whatever , I was just saying that is not 50/50 ( and I know it's not easy to achieve). Anyway , let's stop this wars , nobody want to change his mind so we just keep writing and we lost precious time to watch some funny youtube poop.